re: What is the single defining characteristic of Fascism?

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You have people in of a certain party advocating confiscation of weapons... but Trump is the fascist dictator!

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"Take the guns first, go through due process second."

- tDonald

That said, fascism isn't the only system that has had gun confiscation - and I'm not sure it's actually required for fascism.

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"Take the guns first, go through due process second."

- tDonald

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He took a isht loaf of criticism for it too.

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That said, fascism isn't the only system that has had gun confiscation - and I'm not sure it's actually required for fascism.

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Nono e said as much. Fascists are almost always elected. The disarment comes later. It’s for keeping power. Not attaining it in most cases.

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“Fascism mobilizes people by appealing to their national identity as well as their class,” explains D’Souza. “Fascists are socialists with a national identity.”

He considered the state to be the administrative arm of society

“All is in the state and nothing human exists or has value outside the state.”

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Like I said, Nationalism is one of the prime defining characteristics of Fascism.

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Just like Gentile, Democratic progressives champion a centralized state, which explains the recent expansion of state control in the private sectors of healthcare, banking, education and energy. “Leftists can’t acknowledge their man, Gentile, because that would undermine their attempt to bind conservatism to fascism,” says D’Souza.

Conservatives support small government in order to empower individual liberties, but the left wants the resources of individuals and industries to service the state. “To acknowledge Gentile is to acknowledge that fascism bears a deep kinship to the ideology of today’s left. So, they will keep Gentile where they’ve got him:

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That's just you trying to make a value judgment about Democrats. I'm not indulging in value judgments at this time.

But ultimately, fascism differs from Communism primarily by Nationalism and the importance of the state in Fascism.

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Talking about political "isms" you dolt.

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Where do you draw the line between political systems and economic ones?

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Fascists are almost always elected. The disarment comes later. It’s for keeping power. Not attaining it in most cases.

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An argument could be made for FDR turning the US into a Fascist state during WWII; there was a marriage of production and state, extreme Nationalism, suppression of labor unions, but no confiscation of firearms.

I just don't think there have been enough examples of sustained fascism to draw such conclusions. You could probably make a better argument for Monarchies, and dictatorships in general, for having arms confiscation as a general characteristic. Again, arms confiscation isn't unique to 20th century Fascist governments.

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Definition of fascism
1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control
early instances of army fascism and brutality —J. W. Aldridge


Definition of fascism for English Language Learners
: a way of organizing a society in which a government ruled by a dictator controls the lives of the people and in which people are not allowed to disagree with the government
: very harsh control or authority

Like every other form of collectivism, the defining characteristic is that "group rights" supersede individual rights.

IOW, if you're going to make an omelette, you gotta break some eggs.

That list reads like a Trump speech

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Republicans and the conservative movement.

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As it currently exists, the Republican party does not necessarily reflect Conservative ideals.

In the US, liberalism and conservatism have fluid definitions, and only seem to exist to provide an artificial dichotomy of political ideals. I'm not really sure that nationalism, or even patriotism, are necessary tenets for either ideology like it is for Fascism.

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I was obviously referring Socialism,Communism and Faschism

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It would have been nice if you had stated such, instead of over-generalizing with this statement, "All the "isms" are descended from Karl Marx and Communism"...which could have even included "capital-ism".

Both American political parties promote tenets of Fascism. Nationalism for the Republicans, and supremacy of the state for the Democrats - although neither is really the total domain of the other.

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Pro-feminism for women in their God appointed place 

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And what exactly would this place be for the GOP.

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Republicans and the conservative movement.

As it currently exists, the Republican party does not necessarily reflect Conservative ideals

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Nice edit...jeez dude why did you cut off the statement
and take out "most"?

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, liberalism and conservatism have fluid definitions,

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As does every political philosophy that's ever been put into practice.

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It would have been nice if you had stated such, i

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If you had read the entire posts in regards the roots of facism (which you didn'the because you had to post a
smart arse gotcha respone) then you would have known the
context.

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which could have even included "capital-ism".

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So when was there a political movement called capitalism? 40 years ago both political parties in this country believed in the philosophy FOR THE MOST PART.
I'd say there's a pretty distinct difference in regards
to capitalism between the 2 parties today.Exactly how many Republicans voted for Obamacare?How many Democrats voted for DJT tax cuts?

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Both American political parties promote tenets of Fascism

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And the same could be said for every political party that's ever been elected or governed and no there's never been a significant political victory or governance by someone running as libertarian.