re: What is the process for exiting NATO?

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When you expand an alliance that was set up to resist an offensive minded Communist regime after it collapsed and attempt to actively thwart any efforts at Russia restoring any form of geopolitical ascendancy what options do you leave them? When you evaluate foreign policy, you have to evaluate it from the opposition factions mindset as well, and it's clear that when you expand war guarantee alliances like NATO to areas that have historically been Russia's regional neighborhood, NOT ours, they are left with limited options. Do you expect the Russians to simply acquiesce to foreign demands and power projection against them into perpetuity? This is a failed and flawed doctrine, as we have seen

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I completely agree. Russia is acting as it is because it is isolated. I'd argue that we should have been more patient with accepting Post-Communist countries into NATO, but those countries also have a strong Anti-Russian vein.

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The bigger question is in respect to their grander ideological and geopolitical motivations. What motivated the Soviet Union and what motivates national Russia are not the same. What is inherently dangerous to American or Western European interests that Russia seeks to have greater economic and national ties to people's that have historically closer ties to Russia? Why is it ok for the United States to meddle in the internal affairs of these nations in pursuit of our interests but it's portrayed as some immoral or dangerous act that the Russians seek to maintain influence in what is clearly more vital to their own national interests than our own? This is fear mongering, not rational evaluation of the actual geopolitical situation. Russia seeking to prevent the expansion of NATO to their borders is not indicative of a state that wants to invade and topple Western Civilization, as was the realistic threat from the USSR.

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Again I agree. But we've pushed ourselves into a corner with regard to those Post-Communist states. Which is why I'd rather strengthen the Alliance than to undermine it. Because my fear is that by undermining it it will lead to undermining the general global order in the post-war era. That people seem so eager rework the Alliance ignores the possibility that maybe we cannot. My view is that our only option, given the realistic geopolitical corner we've drawn ourselves into, would be to strengthen the institution. We should never have painted ourselves into that corner, but we pressed our advantage against Russia after 1992 and attempted as a matter of policy to isolate them. It isn't good policy, but it's the policy we had.

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That we have not utilized our time from 1990 to today to better relations with the Russian state and eliminate this absurd tension is as much a fault of our own foreign policy as Russia's.

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I agree again. The US wasted a massive opportunity pursuing idiotic foreign policy maneuvers.

Not as short sided as all of these countries that let the US subsidize their national defense, some of whom then took to the airwaves to attack us as barbaric fiends who don't have "basic human rights" while paying for an "excessively bloated" military that "has no role in the modern world."

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I agree again. The US wasted a massive opportunity pursuing idiotic foreign policy maneuvers.

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I'd rather sell them crappy products than continue pouring billions into subsidizing other nations defense.

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IDK but MY plan would be to tell putin he can have europe (cept for UK) then

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then he would go for the UK

You fools would actually trust Putin

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I'd rather kick Turkey out of NATO

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They act like the kid who knows he can't get in trouble b/c his parents are important. Their leverage is their location and the multiple missions NATO base out of there.

Their current bat shite crazy President is using it to his full advantage.

One the most ignorant posts ever on this board. Blindingly stupid...hilarious!