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What is the goal of the NYT spy story??

Posted on 5/3/19 at 7:41 am
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 7:41 am
My thoughts are that what we are about to learn is so bad, it made sense to reveal such a serious allegation as a redirection effort.

What I do not believe is that the NYT woke up yesterday and decided to do a 180 and actually report on the abuse of power shiteshow.

I know they have a motive....just not sure what it is
Posted by SouthernHog
Arkansas
Member since Jul 2016
6201 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 7:42 am to
It is a strange circumstance that they did go 180 degrees after the past two years.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32554 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 7:43 am to
quote:

What is the goal of the NYT spy story??

To sell papers. They realized that at some point this story couldn’t be ignored. They “scooped” everyone.

Also, I believe libs will play it as political revenge and try to cry foul or just say they believed their “sources” and given the gravity of the claims, what they did was justified ei. Play the hero.
Posted by WPBTiger
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2011
31090 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 7:43 am to
Rush said this story came out because they are trying to get ahead of the Horowitz report and they are getting scared.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51807 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 7:45 am to
My thoughts as well.

They're just trying to head off all of the bad news that's coming.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72129 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 7:45 am to
quote:

Also, I believe libs will play it as political revenge and try to cry foul or just say they believed their “sources” and given the gravity of the claims, what they did was justified ei. Play the hero.
The issue is, if that is their play, they will need to justify continuing the investigation after they determined it to be false, which I don’t think they can do.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95781 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 7:46 am to
Limited modified hangout?

They know they are screwed so why not release the data in a way that favors them.
Posted by Big Jim Slade
Member since Oct 2016
4934 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 7:46 am to
Maybe they know what’s coming and want to be able to say they were one of the first outlets to start running the stories. That, or the reporter is getting fired for wandering off the reservation.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36092 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 7:48 am to
quote:

What is the goal of the NYT spy story??

Whatever it is, it ain't got jack shite to do with truth or transparency.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146946 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 7:48 am to
get out in front of what is coming out; and say they thought the Russians infiltrated so they were black jesus heroes acting on national security purposes.
Posted by Deuces
The bottom
Member since Nov 2011
12392 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 7:57 am to
As people have mentioned here, they’re getting ahead of it to sugarcoat what’s going to be reported.

My summary of the NYT’s article was their admitting of the Trump campaign being spied on with an informant being implanted into the campaign circle.

The way they’re sugarcoating it is by saying that it was for the country’s protection against the Russians and they didn’t tell the campaign, because they didn’t want to “damage” his election efforts.

We’ve come a long way from Trump being called a liar for saying Obama tapped his wires in March of 2017.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
60063 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 8:04 am to
Theyre trying to get ahead of the avalanche of negative public sentiment against the Hussein crime syndicate.
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
15427 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 8:08 am to
Motive?

Normalize otherwise completely traitorous, totalitarian and otherwise dishonest activities of the Obama Administration, and the Democrat Party in General.

They’re gonna ease into an admission that Obama spied on private citizens for no other reason but that he wanted to maintain control of the masses, so they can say he did it because he cared and for a good reason, to save us from ourselves and Muh Russia.

Like any abuser, they will tell us it was for our own good.

frick Obama. And frick the New York Times.
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
25044 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 8:08 am to
Control the narrative.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118853 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 8:11 am to
First of all lets set the stage:

The NYTs is a mouthpiece for the FBI as WaPo is a mouthpiece for the CIA as CNN is a mouthpiece for the State Department and ODNI. This is not a strict relationship but in general this is the relationship. These media outlets publish favorable media content in exchange for access. That is the quid pro quo.

So...

quote:

What is the goal of the NYT spy story??


I posted his yesterday and I believe it's still true:


quote:

You see what NYTs is doing, right?

Oh, but the FBI used spies and entrapment methods with good intentions because of the RUSSIANS!


Okay, lets put this into perspective.

The initial Carter Page FISA warrant was obtained on July 31, 2016. So any spying conducted after July 31st the FBI will claim that is was done legally.

There is a problem though; the Carter Page FISA warrant was obtained illegally by lying to the FISC court (omitting exculpatory evidence and not following the Woods procedure). Acquiring the FISA warrant would have been the right thing to do to spy legally on team Trump but FBI illegally acquired the FISA warrant.

But the question still remains even if they were spying legally, why did the FBI not notify the Trump campaign that he Russians were trying to infiltrate the Trump campaign? But I think we all know the answer. The FBI was not really interested in the Russians they were just interested in framing Trump. And an easy way to infiltrate the Trump team is to compromise inexperienced team Trump members (like George Papadapoulous) especially on foreign soil were U.S. 4th amendment and civil rights laws do not fully apply.


Posted by the_watcher
Jarule's House
Member since Nov 2005
3450 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 8:14 am to
quote:


As people have mentioned here, they’re getting ahead of it to sugarcoat what’s going to be reported.

It’s this. That way, when the actual report or declassification happens the media will gloss over this by saying “we already knew about Azra Turk, but what new information did we learn today?” Then they will discuss something revealed that isn’t nearly as bad while trying to justify it.

They will use those exact words
Posted by Pacito
Member since Jan 2013
1222 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 8:44 am to
So when the IG report comes out, they can say this is old news and the American people are ready to move on.
Posted by Bunyan
He/Him
Member since Oct 2016
20828 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 8:51 am to
quote:

The initial Carter Page FISA warrant was obtained on July 31, 2016. So any spying conducted after July 31st the FBI will claim that is was done legally.

Crossfire Hurricane "officially" started on July 31, 2016

The initial FISA warrant was obtained/signed on October 21, 2016
Posted by Pussykat
South Louisiana
Member since Oct 2016
3889 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 9:02 am to
quote:

Crossfire Hurricane "officially" started on July 31, 2016

The initial FISA warrant was obtained/signed on October 21, 2016


Oops
Posted by YankeeBama
Milwaukee
Member since Sep 2017
4741 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 9:04 am to
The media is in the process of making the most important decision in the history of their organizations. Do we turn on Obama?
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