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re: What happens when Ukraine runs out of Soliders?
Posted on 2/15/23 at 6:03 am to SmogkDeizKnutz
Posted on 2/15/23 at 6:03 am to SmogkDeizKnutz
Good question and not sure but one thing I don’t worry about is our Neocon infested government and MIC soon finding another situation in the world to exploit and make boatloads of money in the process.
Spreading “democracy” by force is too lucrative for our DC junkies to give up the habit.
Spreading “democracy” by force is too lucrative for our DC junkies to give up the habit.
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Posted on 2/15/23 at 6:34 am to ReeseBobby
quote:It is.
If this war is about Russia not wanting Nato on their borders
"Russia not wanting Nato on their borders" IN UKRAINE OR GEORGIA is not even reasonably debatable. It has been a prominent point of Russian concern, and Russia's publicly proclaimed "Red Line," for a quarter century.
In fact, it has been so often noted in diplomatic discussions and is so widely known, that anyone contending otherwise is either frankly compromised or a political dumbass.
quote:Sweden neither borders Russia, nor is it likely to gain entry to NATO.
Sweden is ending 200 hundred years of neutrality
quote:Russian concern re: Ukraine/Georgia is historically derived based on past invasions. The last major invasion of Russia launched through Finland (or the Baltic States ftm) was ... never.
Finland decided to join
Posted on 2/15/23 at 6:47 am to TigerNlc
Russia has plenty of history of throwing bodies at a war. Against Nazi Germany they the certainly had to, but now they have a population issue
Posted on 2/15/23 at 6:58 am to DavidTheGnome
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Russia invaded them. When did the "right" become such pushover pansies?
quote:https://news.antiwar.com/2023/02/05/former-israeli-pm-bennett-says-us-blocked-his-attempts-at-a-russia-ukraine-peace-deal/ Your move!
Former Israeli PM Bennett Says US ‘Blocked’ His Attempts at a Russia-Ukraine Peace Deal
Posted on 2/15/23 at 6:58 am to jmarto1
All of the military logistics are on the side of Ukraine.
Posters here referencing how the Russians are literally "throwing bodies" is correct. They are fighting this like the old world wars. Many or most of their high ranking and experienced military personnel are fricking dead. They are sending in untrained folks to be more target practice for the Ukraine forces.
It's really a no win situation for Russia at all.
Ukraine will NOT run out of soldiers. Period. The US will not allow the Russians to take over - NATO will not allow the Russians to take over - the European Union will not allow the Russians to take over.
I'm not on "sides" with this shite. I wish we weren't arse deep in already taking sides as a Nation vs Russia unless it was a true ally that was worth defending.
Posters here referencing how the Russians are literally "throwing bodies" is correct. They are fighting this like the old world wars. Many or most of their high ranking and experienced military personnel are fricking dead. They are sending in untrained folks to be more target practice for the Ukraine forces.
It's really a no win situation for Russia at all.
Ukraine will NOT run out of soldiers. Period. The US will not allow the Russians to take over - NATO will not allow the Russians to take over - the European Union will not allow the Russians to take over.
I'm not on "sides" with this shite. I wish we weren't arse deep in already taking sides as a Nation vs Russia unless it was a true ally that was worth defending.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 7:48 am to SmogkDeizKnutz
Same thing that happens when they run out of cigarettes
Posted on 2/15/23 at 7:54 am to CoachDon
quote:Unfortunately for Ukraine, it is a two-way street.
Posters here referencing how the Russians are literally "throwing bodies" is correct.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 7:55 am to LookSquirrel
and most of them are trying desperately to avoid being sent into the meat-grinder the war has become.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 7:58 am to NC_Tigah
quote:the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth invaded Russia and occupied Moscow. Of course, that was 400 years ago.
The last major invasion of Russia launched through … the Baltic States … was ... never.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 7:59 am to SmogkDeizKnutz
russia wins
Posted on 2/15/23 at 7:59 am to NC_Tigah
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nor is it likely to gain entry to NATO.
Finland and Sweden will be in as soon as Erdogan gets past the Turkish election in May.
This post was edited on 2/15/23 at 8:02 am
Posted on 2/15/23 at 8:09 am to Indefatigable
quote:Ah, good to know. We'll see.
Finland and Sweden will be in as soon as Erdogan gets past the Turkish election in May.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 8:14 am to AggieHank86
quote:Indeed, through what is present-day Ukraine.
the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth invaded Russia and occupied Moscow. Of course, that was 400 years ago.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 8:17 am to NC_Tigah
quote:maybe. I don’t recall for certain, but the invasion route may well have gone through modern Belarus (also Commonwealth territory). But, most of modern Ukraine WAS in fact PART of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, at the time.
Indeed, through what is present-day Ukraine.
This post was edited on 2/15/23 at 8:27 am
Posted on 2/15/23 at 8:24 am to SmogkDeizKnutz
Let's just empty the prisons in Poland and other Russia hating countries. Would love to see the first suicidal wave of Polish convicts.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 8:29 am to NC_Tigah
quote:The siege of Leningrad was conducted by German army group north via the baltic states. The siege was completed by the Finnish forces that retook Karelia during the continuation war. Sweden and Finland absolutely matter strategically to Russias supposed security.
Russian concern re: Ukraine/Georgia is historically derived based on past invasions. The last major invasion of Russia launched through Finland (or the Baltic States ftm) was ... never.
This post was edited on 2/15/23 at 8:34 am
Posted on 2/15/23 at 8:34 am to DavidTheGnome
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I have no problem sending them old weapons
I see that the talking point has found another home.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 8:49 am to CoachDon
That is why the use of nukes is very real in this situation. It almost has to be a slow bleed out so Russia doesn't hit frick it.
Don't forget the lack of leadership on the ground. You don't exactly have sergeants on the ground making real time decisions. It's an order from the top and the soliders just keep trying to attain that goal regardless of the conditions on the ground.
That is what is fricking them. WW1 they lost about 2 million. WW2 they lost about 27 million. That's a lot of people not having babies and being replaced.
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Many or most of their high ranking and experienced military personnel are fricking dead
Don't forget the lack of leadership on the ground. You don't exactly have sergeants on the ground making real time decisions. It's an order from the top and the soliders just keep trying to attain that goal regardless of the conditions on the ground.
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It ain’t their first rodeo. To put this in perspective we lost around 50K men in Vietnam. They are reporting 100K plus at least in a way shorter time period. Ukraine is less but not far behind.
That is what is fricking them. WW1 they lost about 2 million. WW2 they lost about 27 million. That's a lot of people not having babies and being replaced.
This post was edited on 2/15/23 at 8:51 am
Posted on 2/15/23 at 10:06 am to CoachDon
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Ukraine will NOT run out of soldiers.
What are Ukraine's killed/injured numbers?
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