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What happens when governments Disarm their citizens. A history lesson

Posted on 2/22/18 at 10:09 am
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 10:09 am
Here’s a history of what happens after governments have disarmed their citizens:

1911 – Turkey disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1915 – 1917 they murdered 1.5 million Armenians.

1929 – Russia disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1929 – 1953 they murdered 20 million Russians.

1935 – China disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1948 – 1952 they murdered 20 million Chinese.

1938 – Germany disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1939 – 1945 they murdered 16 million Jews.

1956 – Cambodia disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1975 – 1977 they murdered 1 million Educated people.

1964 – Guatamala disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1964 – 1981 they murdered 100,000 Mayan Indians.

1970 – Uganda disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1971 – 1979 they murdered 300,000 Christians.

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You can argue about the numbers, but the point here is that disarmed citizens are vulnerable, and that there are many historical examples of disarmed citizens being killed and oppressed by their own government. The excuse given by authorities that they need to take guns away from citizens in order to lower crime rates is not supported by facts. Even if a government does not turn on its own citizens after disarming them, people are less safe – because unarmed citizens are easy targets to criminals. Over and over again, it has been clearly shown that taking guns away from citizens does not lead to a decrease in crime but rather a dramatic increase.]
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 10:11 am to
INB4 "That could never happen in the US though!"

Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 10:14 am to
You may have missed my thread on the massacre at wounded knee. It was in the US and was our own government.

They took a vulnerable population (native Americans) separated the men from the women. Took their guns killed then men and then the women and children. That was here. That was our government.

Yet the dems wanting to take away arms are the “champions of the downtrodden”
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 10:15 am to
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What happens when socialist and communist governments Disarm their citizens. A history lesson


I fixed the title for you
Posted by Big12fan
Dallas
Member since Nov 2011
5340 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 10:17 am to
Who is talking about disarming citizens? Specific weapons - yes. All weapons - no. Not a reasonable supposition.
Posted by BamaFan365
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 10:17 am to
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 10:17 am to
Lets not forget Kent State. Our government opened fire on unarmed students. Im not saying the students should have fired on the troops but the troops had no business shooting the students.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42602 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 10:18 am to
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massacre at wounded knee.


I was a middle aged man before I ever heard of this massacre.

This should have been made common knowledge for a century by then.

Completely disillusioned that any military organization could have participated in such a travesty/tragedy.
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 10:18 am to
It almost feels like they want government control over everything.
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 10:20 am to
Are there examples of when they just took away some of the guns? Curious.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42602 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 10:22 am to
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Lets not forget Kent State


Not at all the same - some fidgety national guardsman getting itchy trigger finger and flinching off some shots is different than sustained, commanded, concentrated massacre.

An apt analogy for Kent State would have been they entire unit of nat'l guardsman would have mowed down every student and pursued and murdered those trying to escape.

Not even close - Kent State falls into the category of unfortunate collision of strained nerves = accidents happen. Cannot eliminate those kinds of events - only try to make them more rare.
This post was edited on 2/22/18 at 10:23 am
Posted by Placebeaux
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Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 10:26 am to
Dont forget about The Bonus Army

Bonus Army was the name for an assemblage of some 43,000 marchers—17,000 U.S. World War I veterans, their families, and affiliated groups—who gathered in Washington, D.C. in the summer of 1932 to demand cash-payment redemption of their service certificates. Organizers called the demonstrators the "Bonus Expeditionary Force", to echo the name of World War I's American Expeditionary Forces, while the media referred to them as the "Bonus Army" or "Bonus Marchers". The contingent was led by Walter W. Waters, a former sergeant.

Many of the war veterans had been out of work since the beginning of the Great Depression. The World War Adjusted Compensation Act of 1924 had awarded them bonuses in the form of certificates they could not redeem until 1945. Each certificate, issued to a qualified veteran soldier, bore a face value equal to the soldier's promised payment compound interest. The principal demand of the Bonus Army was the immediate cash payment of their certificates.

On July 28, U.S. Attorney General William D. Mitchell ordered the veterans removed from all government property. Washington police met with resistance, shots were fired and two veterans were wounded and later died. President Herbert Hoover then ordered the Army to clear the marchers' campsite. Army Chief of Staff General Douglas MacArthur commanded the infantry and cavalry supported by six tanks. The Bonus Army marchers with their wives and children were driven out, and their shelters and belongings burned.

A second, smaller Bonus March in 1933 at the start of the Franklin D. Roosevelt administration was defused in May with an offer of jobs with the Civilian Conservation Corps at Fort Hunt, Virginia, which most of the group accepted. Those who chose not to work for the CCC by the May 22 deadline were given transportation home.[1] In 1936, Congress overrode Roosevelt's veto and paid the veterans their bonus nine years early.

At 4:45 p.m., commanded by General Douglas MacArthur, the 12th Infantry Regiment, Fort Howard, Maryland, and the 3rd Cavalry Regiment, supported by six M1917 light tanks commanded by Maj. George S. Patton, formed in Pennsylvania Avenue while thousands of civil service employees left work to line the street and watch. The Bonus Marchers, believing the troops were marching in their honor, cheered the troops until Patton ordered[citation needed] the cavalry to charge them, which prompted the spectators to yell, "Shame! Shame!"[citation needed]


Shacks that members of the Bonus Army erected on the Anacostia Flats burning after its confrontation with the army.
After the cavalry charged, the infantry, with fixed bayonets and tear gas (adamsite, an arsenical vomiting agent) entered the camps, evicting veterans, families, and camp followers. The veterans fled across the Anacostia River to their largest camp, and Hoover ordered the assault stopped. MacArthur chose to ignore the president and ordered a new attack, claiming that the Bonus March was an attempt to overthrow the US government; 55 veterans were injured and 135 arrested.[14] A veteran's wife miscarried. When 12-week-old Bernard Myers died in the hospital after being caught in the tear gas attack, a government investigation reported he died of enteritis, and a hospital spokesman said the tear gas "didn't do it any good."[20]
Posted by Port Royal
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Member since Nov 2016
1811 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 10:28 am to
What about the 12 year old hood rats peddling Smack and Crack, and armed to the teeth...what are you going to do about them Donald?

How many are shot up weekly in New Orleans, Chicago, Baltimore?

Nothing, because the DEA and ATF are to afraid to do their jobs.

Before we start disarming law abiding citizens, let's take a swing at the dregs of society.
This post was edited on 2/22/18 at 10:30 am
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 10:32 am to
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What about the 12 year old hood rats peddling Smack and Crack, and armed to the teeth


The drug business is the ultimate money laundering tool and its used by our government thats why.
Posted by HoopyD
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 10:55 am to
Snopes.com's take on this topic

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Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71807 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 11:00 am to
The late 1930s wasn't an absolute ban, either. It was also very specific.

Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24742 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 11:01 am to
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INB4 "That could never happen in the US though!"


You're still not doing your drills.



Which one is you? The fat one?

The gubments gonna kick yur asses maine.

Didn't you see all that shite in the OP. Gubments coming!
This post was edited on 2/22/18 at 11:05 am
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 11:04 am to
More points for me...
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 11:04 am to
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More points for me...


Keep on keeping on.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 11:05 am to
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