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Posted on 8/14/22 at 7:47 am to ezride25
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You’re looking for truth in a place it does not exist imo.
And where does it exist
Posted on 8/14/22 at 8:11 am to Revelator
quote:So Rev, you have an telling combination of facts:
I’m wondering about the facts concerning issues like attorney/ client privilege or nuclear sources.
(1) It would be incredibly stupid for Trump to bring Nuclear Weapons to MAL. But he's not a stupid guy.
(2) Trump says such accusations are garbage. There is a track record. When he's made similar claims in the past, he's been correct virtually every time.
(3) I haven't seen a claim of attorney client privilege, but outsiders accessing materials such as Obama's letter to Trump are absolute and obvious breeches of Executive Privilege.
(4) Regarding MSM and Dem accusations or counterpoints. There is a track record on that accord as well. When there were similar claims in the past, they turned out to be false virtually every time.
So what to believe? Well as the saying goes, fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 8:14 am to Mitlands
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Open your Bible
Even on the Bible, there is no consensus on almost any topic raised.
Let’s say we are talking about the rapture and when it will take place, or if it will take place at all? Do you know there are many many views on this issue alone?
Some think the church is raptured before the tribulation. Some think the church is raptured mid tribulation. Some think it’s post tribulation. Others, right before the bowl judgments. There is a camp that doesn’t believe in the rapture at all.
See what I mean?
Posted on 8/14/22 at 8:16 am to Revelator
quote:In the actual source material.
And where does it exist
The CTH or CNN make a claim about a bill or law, go to the bill or law and see for yourself.
If you can't see/access the unedited source material yourself, be EXTREMELY suspicious.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 8:16 am to NC_Tigah
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So what to believe? Well as the saying goes, fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.
This tells me where to lean of course, but even a blind squirrel finds a nut some time. Once in a while, the other side can be right too.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 8:19 am to Revelator
A little off topic but I read through the Bible one time and came away convinced it was mid-Trib. And that seems to be the least accepted of the three.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 8:22 am to Revelator
quote:Go to the root source.
This tells me where to lean of course, but even a blind squirrel finds a nut some time. Once in a while, the other side can be right too.
Great example is the TX abortion law. When hospitals supposedly claimed they were prohibited by the law from taking care of ectopics, every fiber of my being screamed bullshite. But when I looked at the actual law, it unfortunately was horribly written, and it said exactly what opponents claimed.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 8:22 am to BigMob
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A little off topic but I read through the Bible one time and came away convinced it was mid-Trib. And that seems to be the least accepted of the three.
One could spend lots of time simply researching the different positions on this topic alone.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 8:25 am to NC_Tigah
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Go to the root source.
This is good advice, when available. But at times, like on the subject of can a person be disqualified from running for president if he’s convicted of a crime, there seems to be conflicting views.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 9:38 am to Revelator
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What does a society do when no longer can any media sources be trusted? by Revelator
Perhaps what we should realize is there was never a time when we should trust the media. We should even take a look at some of the crap we were taught in schools by historians/journalists. For example, were historians correct that FDR got us out of the Great Depression? Or have we finally accepted historians had political sources they relied on and the truth is FDR got us into it by advancing economically counterintuitive policies?
Did Lincoln get us out of the Civil War? Or did he get us into it to consolidate power?
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Who do we trust? What are the facts? What is the law?
These are the questions journalists were previously asking themselves before writing articles. They didn’t really know the truth - but they were on publishing deadlines and had to get a story out. Whether they had the truth or not, they worded their stories with sufficient certainty that contributed to people trusting them. With so few content providers, they COULD control a narrative that the population has little reason to doubt. It was an era of blind, ignorant trust.
We are now in an era when potential sources are delivered to us almost as a setting - we passively receive news from different sources.
If we care about the truth, we need to accept that even our favorite team lies so that we will get worked up, send them money, and vote for them. We simply have to be capable of sorting through conflicting stories, and put the pieces together ourselves by identifying what makes the most sense.
In our heads, we have different mental filters. For most people, that filter is set to “my favorite team” which can be a singular news source or their favorite politician(s). But the mental default setting we should try to lock in is Occam’s razor.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 9:41 am to Willie Stroker
Thanks for that exhaustive response Willie. It was well written, thoughtful and helpful.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 9:50 am to Revelator
I learn lots of things just by reading a variety of authors and applying some logic to determine how to assess it's truth.
Just yesterday I read a chapter by O'Keefe that dealt with my assumption that all MSM journalists are leftist.
He says about 20% are objective reporters looking for a scoop (like you're supposed to).
BUT....they know they are the minority and have to watch what they say in the office. They come out of the closet when they get totally pissed off with the bosses who spike their story because it doesn't help Democrats.
All of the bosses are left wing hacks.
Just yesterday I read a chapter by O'Keefe that dealt with my assumption that all MSM journalists are leftist.
He says about 20% are objective reporters looking for a scoop (like you're supposed to).
BUT....they know they are the minority and have to watch what they say in the office. They come out of the closet when they get totally pissed off with the bosses who spike their story because it doesn't help Democrats.
All of the bosses are left wing hacks.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 9:51 am to Revelator
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This is good advice, when available. But at times, like on the subject of can a person be disqualified from running for president if he’s convicted of a crime, there seems to be conflicting views.
When it comes to qualification to be President , there is only one authoritative source - the Constitution.
Other sources may claim authority but to be authoritative, they have to be linked to the Constitution. This typically happens with court challenges when a group half-connected to the Constitution (USSC) determines whether or not it actually is. But as we see with Roe v Wade, that doesn’t make it true.
On certain topics, there are no facts. When that happens, we just have to turn to the wisdom of Lebowski:

Posted on 8/14/22 at 9:55 am to Revelator
Use your xx number of years of real life experience of gut feelings to determine right from wrong news. Mine is 62.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 9:57 am to Willie Stroker
The problem is the intel agencies totally dominate corporate media. Aaron Mate was on Jimmy Dore a few months back and he just said there is no one who will take on the CIA and FBI like the old days.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 10:00 am to mauser
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Dan Bongino
I like the guy, but you don't think he's completely unbiased when presenting the news?
Posted on 8/14/22 at 10:01 am to Revelator
It's so much worse than not trusting the media....there's little reason to trust the federal government and the bureaucracies within the government. How about the judicial system? Depending on where you live and the nature of your legal challenges....are you confident in equitable treatment under the law? Yes, it's so much worse than not trusting the Gaslight Media.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 10:05 am to Revelator
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And where does it exist
All that you need is in your soul. You have to go within to find truth. The Holy Spirit will guide you.
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