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re: What do all you Iran sympathizers say about this..

Posted on 4/17/26 at 9:28 am to
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77247 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 9:28 am to
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Our grandparents were willing to risk their lives to defend people and do the noble thing across the globe. We can’t even handle paying more at the gas pump. We have become a soft and selfish society. Not good.
Yes, and our foreign allies also sacrificed as well.

Now they don’t and demand that only we act, all while taking advantage of our good will.

Stop supporting freeloaders and leeches.
Posted by justaniceguy
Member since Sep 2020
7589 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 9:29 am to
When the war was fought it had nothing to do with freeing anybody from any “camps”.

It was about stopping Germany from “taking over the world”.

That is exactly my point. Somehow it got pushed into we were saving all these people from concentration camps. That was never the reason they gave in the 1940s. The public sentiment likely would have been very different. People didn’t think it was worth risking all these American lives at the time over something like that.

The irony here of course is that we Americans also put our own people into concentration camps during this time over fear of WW2.
Posted by HarryHoudini
Member since Oct 2025
964 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 9:30 am to
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Couldn't give a frick ab what Iran does in their own country. Have any long range missiles hit US soils? Not that I'm aware of. Nothing like pearl harbor could happen in this day and age, not with out our military knowing ab it before it happens. Hell they knew back then, but ignored the warnings


Holy ignorant hell. This mindset is the problem.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5441 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 9:30 am to
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So liberating all those innocent people in Europ from nazi rule and all those concentration camps was a lie?

This is not why we went to war in WW2.
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We should’ve just let hitler do his thing?

He, like many before him, would have seen his dreams die on the frozen grounds of Russia. I mean, that defeated Germany more than anything we did.
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Your entitled to your opinion but I don’t really see how that war was a lie.

The reasons for going to war in Europe was not a lie. We know now that we did in fact know that Japan was going to attack and did nothing to stop them in order to get approval for war in both Europe and Asia.

As any good conservative, I am against wars in Foreign nations today, just as they were back then. Yes, it was conservatives who were keeping us out of WW2.
Posted by justaniceguy
Member since Sep 2020
7589 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 9:30 am to
If you are ever in San Antonio drinks are on me
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5441 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 9:33 am to
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Holy ignorant hell. This mindset is the problem.


There is much more evidence that the "America should police the world" mindset is a much, much bigger problem.
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired - 31 years
Member since Feb 2019
6365 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 9:37 am to
I fail to see how this is the US’s concern, more folks than that are killed everyday in American cities. Not to mention around the world. Currently, there is a Christian genocide happening in Nigeria; however, the US is not providing direct military defense of these people.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
Who knows where?
Member since Jan 2008
12635 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 9:41 am to
So protestors, all of four of them when we were told millions of Iranians wanted to be liberated, are being executed by a government with no free speech laws and a history of putting protestors to death?

It’s funny to me that people on here are claiming others are Iran apologists when Trump said no more foreign wars and he’s started multiple and his followers are explaining them away as “necessary” and he’s doing a good job.

While the executions are horrible, the US knowingly bombed a girls’ school in Iran. The loss of life is appalling at this point and the US is looking to send in ground troops, so we will start to feel more than economic extortion soon if the war doesn’t de-escalate.

But yes, Iran shouldn’t execute people for protesting their government. And neither should ICE.
Posted by HarryHoudini
Member since Oct 2025
964 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 9:41 am to
Good points. But The world is way more intertwined now than back then. Allowing the mullahs to run wild would cause problems for everyone esp with 1/3 of the world oil flowing off their coast.

This has been a problem for decades and every president since Reagan has kicked this can down the road. Just like our national debt, dealing with this was going to have to happen at some point.
This post was edited on 4/17/26 at 9:42 am
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
14035 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 9:42 am to
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Believes Trump also never completely obliterated their nuke program last summer


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Saturday, 19 July 2025 11:52 AM EDT

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President Donald Trump Saturday insisted that the United States military strikes "completely destroyed" three nuclear sites in Iran through last month's Operation Midnight Hammer

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"All three nuclear sites in Iran were completely destroyed and/or OBLITERATED," Trump posted on his Truth Social page. "It would take years to bring them back into service and, if Iran wanted to do so, they would be much better off starting anew, in three different locations, prior to those sites being obliterated, should they decide to do so."

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The network also reported that U.S. Central Command had briefed Trump on a larger plan for striking Iran that would have involved hitting three more nuclear sites, but the operation would have stretched out for several weeks.

It was rejected, however, because it did not match his foreign policy call against digging deeper into foreign conflicts and because it brought the possibilities of much higher casualties on both sides, according to NBC's sources.


LINK

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February 25, 2026, 7:00 AM

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"After Midnight Hammer, they were warned to make no future attempts to rebuild their weapons program and in particular nuclear weapons. Yet they continue, they're starting it all over. We wiped it out and they want to start all over again," Trump said.

LINK
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
14035 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 9:44 am to
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Yes, and our foreign allies also sacrificed as well.

Now they don’t and demand that only we act, all while taking advantage of our good will.

Stop supporting freeloaders and leeches.


All the while talking shite about us.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
39577 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 9:49 am to
And yet, if Iran would have even halfway lived up to the agreement they signed, none of this would've happened.



Posted by justaniceguy
Member since Sep 2020
7589 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 9:49 am to
If we are being honest the UK is the one who created this whole mess so I wish they would be responsible for fixing it.
Posted by HarryHoudini
Member since Oct 2025
964 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 9:51 am to
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there is a Christian genocide happening in Nigeria; however, the US is not providing direct military defense of these people.


Yes we have.
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
9531 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 10:07 am to
There are boots on the ground as we speak. My former SIL is a decorated retired Marine Corps Officer. He takes training contracts to train Africans. If the US supports these actions…..there a boots on the ground.

He was the leader of the last souls guarding the White House on 9-11.
Posted by caro81
Member since Jul 2017
6331 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 10:29 am to
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What do all you Iran sympathizers


is this really an issue? I dont mean something you saw on some weird arse site as a thing, or some stupid bit about 3 purple haired losers. I havent met a single person who is an iranian sympathizer.

Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9349 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 10:32 am to
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This has been a problem for decades and every president since Reagan has kicked this can down the road


They all had to do a cost benefit analysis and deemed it too costly and the possibility of a catastrophic blow to the global economy too risky. The fact that Iran could cause massive wide spread damage to oil production and shipping in the region has in essence meant they already have/had a weapon of mass destruction. So we've been in a state MAD with them for the past 45 years and been relying on limited air strikes, Israeli ops, and negotiations to try and contain the nuclear threat. Even now, despite all the bombing, the blockade, etc.the threat to the gulf states seems to still be in place. The massive arsenal of missiles and drones buried deep with the mountains of Iran have proven to be difficult to neutralize to the point that we can deem them no longer a significant threat.

Trump is trying to do what others did not think was possible.... eliminate the nuclear and conventional threat Iran poses to the region ....on the cheap. so to speak...and its proving not that easy. He is now trying to make a deal with the IRGC and not wanting to commit to total war due to the potential cost in blood and treasure. and if he does make a deal...he is also just kicking the can down the road.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60631 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 10:39 am to
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So liberating all those innocent people in Europ from nazi rule and all those concentration camps was a lie? We should’ve just let hitler do his thing? Is that what you’re saying? Your entitled to your opinion but I don’t really see how that war was a lie.
are you 12?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37206 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 10:42 am to
I don’t care what Iran does to its people.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37206 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 10:44 am to
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Now they don’t and demand that only we act, all while taking advantage of our good will.

No one demanded we do this, and no one is benefiting from it, except Israel.
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