re: What Did Men Do to Deserve This? (Another take on the so-called man/boy crisis)

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Then what else could cause (1) the extreme reversal and (2) current gap?

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In what? College attendance?

I can smell the wafting of emotional bullshite from the chart.

The feminization of America is going to part of our eventual demise.

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This is absolutely not true. At least not in Louisiana. Teachers are not allowed to talk about medicating children for any reason with parents as far as I know.

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I fully agree red and blue states are different.

But if you read the article its very true in many areas of the nation.

You were fine blaming doctors because you could blame "capitalism", but when magazines like psychology today are concerned about the impact of teachers, you state its not true.

If you want to talk about only men in Louisiana, then I dont have many anecdotal experiences.

But then again it is possible that Louisiana men are just well adjusted beyond what Blue state men are.

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both my older kids had IEPs for speech. IEPs are not always intended to be permanent.

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Yes, thats why the parents are pushed into the overmedication.

Do you think they will get off it without medication?

The problem is they are targeting normal male behaviors and saying fix it or else.

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there’s been a major shift towards the “least restrictive environment” in the last 10-15 or so years. For better or worse, there are fewer self-contained classes for kids with IEPs. Kids with IEPs get what’s called “push in” support for a paraprofessional or sped teacher in the general education classroom now.

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Agreed and its more positive.
My brother is a SP ED teacher, I do think behavior management is far far superior to medical management.

But remember, the kids who started school 10 years ago are only entering high-school.

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But if you read the article its very true in many areas of the nation.

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I hadn't read it when I initially responded.

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For instance, a child in Kentucky is three times as likely to be diagnosed with ADHD as a child in Nevada. And a child in Louisiana is five times as likely to take medication for ADHD as a child in Nevada.

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Specifically, Drs. Hinshaw and Scheffler’s team found a correlation between the states with the highest rates of ADHD diagnosis and laws that penalize school districts when students fail. Some of these laws are what they call “consequential accountability statutes”—that is, laws like No Child Left Behind, which make school funding contingent on the number of students who pass standardized tests.

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As someone who taught public elementary school in Louisiana, I have some thoughts.



50% more kids in Louisiana are covered by Medicaid than in Nevada. Fourteen percent more kids in Kentucky are covered by Medicaid than in Nevada. There's a correlation there.

This 2024 report shows that Mississippi, Louisiana, Arkansas, Alabama and Kentucky respectively have the largest percentage of kids who receive SSI. Kids with diagnoses such as ADHD are eligible for SSI. Nevada has the 47th highest percentage of its kids receiving SSI.

Again, there's a correlation there.

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You were fine blaming doctors because you could blame "capitalism", but when magazines like psychology today are concerned about the impact of teachers, you state its not true.

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The Psychology Today article you linked did not make any statements or implications about teachers recommending ADHD medication for students. Neither article you linked blamed teachers. They both blame government policies like No Child Left Behind.

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But then again it is possible that Louisiana men are just well adjusted beyond what Blue state men are.

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This made me audibly laugh. I do not believe this is the case.

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Do you think they will get off it without medication?

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My 8 year old no longer has an IEP. My 6 year old still has one but I'm sure she will "graduate" at the time of her annual IEP meeting. Neither of them are medicated - they just needed speech therapy.

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My brother is a SP ED teacher, I do think behavior management is far far superior to medical management.

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Agree, in some cases. It just all depends on the child and the exceptionality. I was a sped teacher at one point, myself. In a Title I urban school in New Orleans so you can imagine the kinds of behaviors I dealt with on a daily basis.

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Part of your ire should be toward trans men, women, wtf ever. Since they are, again, doing exactly what you started the three about. But your propaganda can’t go against the tranny agenda. They pull rank over women.

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This isn't true. I view trans people as mentally ill. I don't advocate for trans-acceptance nor do I feel compelled to devote much energy to such a minute portion of the population.

4cubbies still trying to figure out why trannies arent on that chart.

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And you don't want to entertain the points brought up in the OP?

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Hilarious. You have been asked a hundred questions you avoid like the plague, yet want others to "entertain" your thoughts.

Why are men incarcerated more than women at a rate of 9-1?

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You have been asked a hundred questions you avoid like the plague, yet want others to "entertain" your thoughts.

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That's every thread that poster gets involved in

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That's every thread that poster gets involved in

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Absolutely. She's a total fraud.

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since women/girls are generally ignored, we only hear about men and boys "in crisis."

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Someone needs to tell the women that butttt they wouldn’t listen. They’d just complain more if that’s even possible