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re: What broke Germany and how to resuscitate?

Posted on 9/13/26 at 11:16 am to
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 11:16 am to
Merkel is what happened. Plus the Greens have a strong following.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 11:37 am to
The AfD win might be duplicated in Sweden. Their election today has polls favoring right wing 'Swedish Democrats'. Don't be fooled by the word 'democrat'. They are for stopping immigration, fighting crime and protecting freedom of speech and if they win the media will say it's more of the Nazi takeover.
This post was edited on 9/13/26 at 11:40 am
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 1:45 pm to
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Stop funding the EU, expel the immigrants, find God, and start birthing Germans again.

There are lessons for us here as well.
Posted by Ferdinand
Member since Aug 2026
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 1:53 pm to
The “ going green” ideology is a result of guilt and lack of free speech. They still rely on Russia but pretend they’re still a serious country.
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 2:04 pm to
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The “ going green” ideology is a result of guilt and lack of free speech. They still rely on Russia but pretend they’re still a serious country.


Partially, sure. But it was sold as an economic plan primarily: get out in front on green technology. There is a large bitterness in Germany due to how China beat them in the area. And now China is killing German car manufacturing (really all of Europe car manufacturing).

All of Europe seems to be heeding Trump's warnings and are trying to take some action. But it feels all so "too little too late"
Posted by Ferdinand
Member since Aug 2026
98 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 2:20 pm to
Good point. Forced change by government has never worked. German car companies wont adapt. They were great because they were German.
Posted by Ferdinand
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 2:35 pm to
“Swedish Democrats“ are sadly not looking great.

The rapes of blondes is looking like it’s about to increase.
Posted by VooDude
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 4:42 pm to
This is probably going to get me banned, oh well, but was Hitler right?

A buddy from an ivy league school of all places shared this doc series in college over a decade ago called “The Greatest Story Never Told”. It has since been banned from YT and across all social media. Even the site that sold it was taken down.

Let’s be real, if I’m Britain and at the verge of losing my empire (lost it anyway), I will do whatever it takes to get the US into the war. Would also promise an Israeli zionist state for war funding alone.
This post was edited on 9/13/26 at 4:48 pm
Posted by VooDude
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 5:02 pm to
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Merkel is what happened. Plus the Greens have a strong following.
Yeah frick her. Germany made a real industrial and economic comeback until she decided to turn Germany into an asylum state.

Good for states like Poland and Hungary standing their ground.
This post was edited on 9/13/26 at 5:03 pm
Posted by Ferdinand
Member since Aug 2026
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 6:07 pm to
The older I’d get. The more I sympathize with Hitler.

Crazy to say that. But I don’t like foreigners.

I want my family to grow up playing baseball against rival towns.

Posted by Ferdinand
Member since Aug 2026
98 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 6:32 pm to
All of Europe seems to be heeding Trump's warnings and are trying to take some action. But it feels all so "too little too late"

As an American offering a suggestion.

Stay strapped. Have a knife claim to be Indian or something. Paint your face brown.

Honestly. Run for government. Change shite. Your invaders shouldn’t tell you how to live.

Posted by VooDude
Member since Aug 2017
3809 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 6:34 pm to
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The older I’d get. The more I sympathize with Hitler. Crazy to say that. But I don’t like foreigners. I want my family to grow up playing baseball against rival towns.
Foreigners sure, but what resonated with me the most is what economists called “The Economic Miracle.” The kind of miracle that turned needing a fortune for a loaf of bread literally into being the preeminent economy in the world, so much in fact that Britain and France felt threatened.

That, and the ingenious weapons, military strategy, and rejoice among the population that made another war, that quickly, possible. The US needs that kind of leadership.
Posted by Ferdinand
Member since Aug 2026
98 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 6:48 pm to
The economic miricle” would work in a high trust society.

It’s never going to exist.
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
26813 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 7:02 pm to
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What broke Germany

Clemenceau, mostly. Lloyd George, too, but he was less of a hardass.
Posted by Ferdinand
Member since Aug 2026
98 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 7:06 pm to
It’s an ideal that’s beautiful in thought.

But I don’t care about you’re Grandpa and you don’t care about mine.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
17783 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 7:45 pm to
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Merkel is what happened.

The ECHR laid the groundwork, and her overreaction to the dead Syrian kid in 2015 slammed the nail in the coffin. Belgium and France were creeping towards it, Italy somewhat so (due to allowing the "importation" of people from former colonies,) but Merkel and Germany blew the flood gates. But frick me if I didn't leave the EU to go to the UK every 29 days when on a work permit, cause then I'm a criminal.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
26459 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 8:34 pm to
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They blocked citizen vigilante and completely block any speech that is anti globalist.


Isn't that why WW II was fought to initiate globalism? I mean, the UN was chartered two months after WW II ended.

Imagine that!!
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
17783 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 8:37 pm to
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WW II was fought to initiate globalism?

Go back to the League of Nations, young padawan.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
26459 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 8:44 pm to


Yep, even before WW I, ol' Woodrow was pushing the cause. I can't wait until the US exits these anti-US montrocities.
Posted by Ferdinand
Member since Aug 2026
98 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 9:38 pm to
Yea. Some people thought that. We weren’t there.
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