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re: What are your reasons for believing climate change is "a hoax"
Posted on 3/8/18 at 9:13 am to olddawg26
Posted on 3/8/18 at 9:13 am to olddawg26
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This is pretty much the rights stance on climate change. Some are honest enough to admit it. Acknowledging it being real AND being willfully wasteful makes you feel more guilty so denying it while being wasteful is much easier. Most on this board are pretty good at disguising their feelings towards this, but every now and then someone says EXACTLY what they’re thinking, which is that they could care less what happens in 100 years. And that’s the truth.
Or, like a rational person they feel the predicted outcomes of climate change are heavily exaggerated and the world will be fine regardless...
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Posted on 3/8/18 at 10:15 am to Dawgfanman
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What proposed remedies will halt climate change, are feasible, and beneficial to humanity?
perhaps there are none that make economic sense or that are feasible. It doesn't change the fact that climate change is real and that overall the planet is getting warmer and that man kinds activities have had an affect on the current accelerated warming of the planet.
Posted on 3/8/18 at 11:03 am to olddawg26
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And that’s the truth.
I can't fathom the feeble mind that would look to you for any "truth".
Posted on 3/8/18 at 11:15 am to bstew3006
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This is what everyone has spelled out for you. Yet, your arrogant Pompous attitude kept you from this realization. Everyone agrees Man has an Impact. Even Climatologist in your "97%" arugument, agree on this. They go on to say its at a minute scale, which you fail to recognize. But YOU, GORE and the bill nyes of the world think Man is the absolute and only cause to any Climate change now and moving forward. Its all Hyperbole and that's what everyone is calling out!! But you sit back pushing this hyperbole and calling others, that actually read entire reports, putting all info into context, as Conspiracy Theorist. You are an absolute Twat stain.
This is the crux of the entire issue present day and how it is being twisted to viciously attack counter viewpoints.
Those that acknowledge climate change in a general sense but dare to question the consequences or the extent of mankind's impact are lumped in with those that deny any climate change whatsoever.
Those are two different viewpoints, yet to the monetized and power hungry climate activists it's truly a "you're either with us or you're against us" mentality. And if you're against us, you shouldn't even exist much less be allowed to have or voice your opinion.
And the way they communicate their viewpoint and push their agenda, it's absolute brainwashing propaganda whereby you'd think their view is absolute proven fact and on to the next step. This is what's being done in the bullshite enviro lawsuits against the energy/O&G companies.
Posted on 3/8/18 at 11:22 am to Powerman
quote:If there was evidence that man had been suffering from the same ailments for millions of years before the first cigarette was smoked, YES.
If you were in the 1950s would you be skeptical of people that said smoking was bad for you because big tobacco had scientists telling you it wasn't so bad?
Posted on 3/8/18 at 11:23 am to Powerman
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quote:I have issues with people who say man burning fossil fuel is causing what we see.
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So you reject the scientific consensus on the matter and join the conspiracy theory belief club.
No, pal. I understand scientific data and know how to interpret it. you, on the other hand....
MAGA
Posted on 3/8/18 at 11:39 am to Powerman
quote:Great, then we can end the thread and start a new one to discuss whether proposed legislation to shut down industries and redistribute wealth are necessary or even reasonable because I think there's danger in pretending that only one side of this argument is influenced by political persuasion.
I do think some people (politicians, not scientists) get pretty drastic with the alarmist predictions. They're no better than the people completely denying it exists at all. I also agree that some of the proposed remedies are not feasible or beneficial to humanity. That being said, I think there is also a danger in sticking our head in the sand and pretending it's not real because of political persuasion.
Posted on 3/8/18 at 11:53 am to lsufanz
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Great, then we can end the thread and start a new one to discuss whether proposed legislation to shut down industries and redistribute wealth are necessary or even reasonable
They are neither necessary nor reasonable and you won't find a single person here to disagree with that.
Posted on 3/8/18 at 12:19 pm to Lonnie Utah
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If that claim were true, then CO2 levels would not be rising as rapidly as they have been for the past 100 years. The simple fact is, while it's true that the planet MAY BE able to "filter" large amounts of CO2, human activity is liberating more than CO2 than can be fixed by natural means.
CO2 rates are not rising that rapidly, roughly 1 ppm per year. Not doing your research for you and I doubt I can change your mind but if you do want another side of the story look up CO2 emissions and CO2 absorption by earth.
Posted on 3/8/18 at 12:24 pm to Powerman
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They are neither necessary nor reasonable and you won't find a single person here to disagree with that.
While on that "reasonable" line of thinking...what percentage of the atmosphere does CO2 make up...all sources natural and man made?
Posted on 3/8/18 at 12:27 pm to Powerman
Because everybody promoting it makes their living off it
And the OP got the quotes in the wrong place
How come nobody follows the money?
And the OP got the quotes in the wrong place
How come nobody follows the money?
Posted on 3/8/18 at 1:18 pm to Powerman
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I just chose to stop taking conspiracy theories seriously a long time ago. Apparently some people here still take them seriously.
So check back in when you decide to get back in the investigative mode again
Posted on 3/8/18 at 1:43 pm to Powerman
All “requirements and regulations” are costly to the consumer.
May not be defined as a tax, but the consumer does have to pay for them.
Just let the free market work.
Hence the electric auto industry taking off.
It’s all about the sun.
May not be defined as a tax, but the consumer does have to pay for them.
Just let the free market work.
Hence the electric auto industry taking off.
It’s all about the sun.
Posted on 3/8/18 at 2:33 pm to Pdubntrub
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CO2 rates are not rising that rapidly, roughly 1 ppm per year. Not doing your research for you and I doubt I can change your mind but if you do want another side of the story look up CO2 emissions and CO2 absorption by earth.
While you say, that the 1 ppm/year increase is not significant, it is the most rapid increase in 400,000 years of observable data that we have on the subject. If that's not significant in your mind then nothing I can say or present will change it.
So we can quibble over if 1 ppm/year is significant or not, but the fact of the matter remains, more CO2 is being liberated into the atmosphere by natural and man made processes than is being 1) Fixed as organic plant material by photosynthesis or 2) Converted to Calcium carbonate by marine creatures.
Posted on 3/8/18 at 2:59 pm to Lonnie Utah
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While you say, that the 1 ppm/year increase is not significant, it is the most rapid increase in 400,000 years of observable data that we have on the subject. If that's not significant in your mind then nothing I can say or present will change it. So we can quibble over if 1 ppm/year is significant or not, but the fact of the matter remains, more CO2 is being liberated into the atmosphere by natural and man made processes than is being 1) Fixed as organic plant material by photosynthesis or 2) Converted to Calcium carbonate by marine creatures
I would happily talk to you on this subject because you seem willing to delve in to the actual discussion rather than simply declare your ability to count.
Alas, that would need a new thread because Pman has basically fricked this thread all to hell by both starting it and being the dumbest person on the subject in it.
Posted on 3/8/18 at 3:00 pm to ShortyRob
When this thread was 4 or 5 pages I looked at it and went "ehhhh, probably too late to get in anything substantive"
Now it's still here
Now it's still here
This post was edited on 3/8/18 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 3/8/18 at 3:02 pm to ShortyRob
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would happily talk to you on this subject because you seem willing to delve in to the actual discussion rather than simply declare your ability to count.
It's called looking at the big picture you dumb arse. Do you really think there will be some meaningful scientific exchange on the God damn poliboard? If you're expecting that then you're more fricking delusional than I imagined.
Posted on 3/8/18 at 3:05 pm to Powerman
Well that’s ugly
Posted on 3/8/18 at 3:07 pm to Powerman
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It's called looking at the big picture you dumb arse.
No. It's called you haven't anything else to even try to contribute. So, you hide behind "muh conspiracy".
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Do you really think there will be some meaningful scientific exchange on the God damn poliboard?
One can actually discuss this subject absent highly detailed science but since you aren't even equipped for that, you label all such discussion "conspiracy" and then yell about your counting ability.
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f you're expecting that then you're more fricking delusional than I imagined.
You haven't demonstrated enough intellect to have much imagination. So, can't say I'm surprised here.
Sorry dude. Come back when you aren't a subject matter moron.
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