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re: What are your reasons for believing climate change is "a hoax"

Posted on 3/7/18 at 6:57 pm to
Posted by Taxing Authority
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 6:57 pm to
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Not really, not to the resolution they need.

Its 2018. I’m in the modeling business. Resolution isn’t really an issue.

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doesn't seem to support your point
Actulally both do. The grid size ssue ain’t due to lack of computing power. It’s due to amateur modeling techniques, and inability of them (Not us!) to solve sparse discontinuous state variables. So they just “average” everything into larger spatial distributions to “smooth” it out.
This post was edited on 3/7/18 at 7:09 pm
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 6:58 pm to
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I will completely ignore all further scientific development on this issue since you have supreme knowledge on the matter.
Thst would be incredibly stupid. Though unsurprising... no one asked you do that. Hell, I follow it a lot closer than you do.

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I'm almost sold on the conspiracy from this anecdote.
That quote has literally nothing to do with a consipiracy. But that is for letting us know you don’t comprehend it.
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Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:03 pm to
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Because what you're implying is that there are several thousand scientists all in on some elaborate scheme.
Well when you say it like that.....












... it’s a complete strawman.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:04 pm to
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Actually, the ability to manipulate language to the point that those who disagree with you nevertheless adopt what you want something to be called pretty much unabashedly away from what they REALLY WANT IT TO BE sounds like a doozy of a conspiracy in and of itself.
or plain’ol namecalling. Notice not a single modeling defense has been floated by the OP. Not one. .
This post was edited on 3/7/18 at 7:06 pm
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:09 pm to
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That quote has literally nothing to do with a consipiracy. But that is for letting us know you don’t comprehend it.

I know. But I found it humorous that you decided to use the anecdote about your belief in the conspiracy.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63329 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:11 pm to
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Perhaps if he had said, "It's probably your hypothesis that's broke." then that would've supported your point better.
Thats exactly what he was saying. Many modelers get caught up in saying the real world isn’t how the model is defining—they start to blame physical observations-instead of their models. Spend some time looking and you’ll see that claim Odenton in he climate modeling community. They have energy taken to claiming missing heat they predicted is in all sorts of hidden places. It’s entertaining if one knows basic thermo (like heat rises!).

If you any other modeling questions illl let poeerman answer them. He can count to at least 100.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:14 pm to
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Notice not a single modeling defense has been floated by the OP. Not one. .


Computer models tell you what you tell it. It's very easy to manipulate the data to show what you want it to show. GIGO..garbage in...garbage out.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63329 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:18 pm to
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But I found it humorous that you decided to use the anecdote about your belief in the conspiracy.
Thst’s what you think that was? You should stick to counting.
Posted by Rock the Casbah
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:22 pm to
wait, there is no multi-variant regression equation for “climate change”? where did all this 95% confidence come from?
Posted by Giventofly
Austin
Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:24 pm to
Will have and has had ZERO affect on my or my families life. Don’t care what may happen a few hundred years from now. I’ll be worm food long before any supposed detrimental conditions occur.

This post was edited on 3/7/18 at 7:54 pm
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:29 pm to
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If you any other modeling questions illl let poeerman answer them. He can count to at least 100

Right. I don't deal with modeling. Sounds like you do. Let me be the first to say congrats.

Unfortunately for me your experience with computer modeling is not sufficient evidence to qualify you as superior to the sum of all research on the matter. I know. Crazy.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:34 pm to
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Notice not a single modeling defense has been floated by the OP. Not one. .

I'm not sure why you think I would need to do such a thing.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:35 pm to
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where did all this 95% confidence come from?

The Illuminati of course
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:43 pm to
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to the sum of all research on the matter.


This is also bullsjit.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173660 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:49 pm to
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This is also bullsjit.

The sum of all of the research on the mat points heavily to the side of humans having an impact. Consider yourself one of the fortunate enlightened few that happens to be browsing the poliboard today. Taxing authority is also an authority on climate science and his observations are more important than the rest of the research on the matter. We just happened to be in the right place at the right time to be imparted with such supreme knowledge.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:52 pm to
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Liberalism

Has nothing to do with science


Neither does the funding for the "scientists," especially those who have made a career on government funded "research."
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173660 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:53 pm to
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Neither does the funding for the "scientists," especially those who have made a career on government funded "research."


So do you think the conclusions of their research is bogus?
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
82365 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 8:02 pm to
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Don’t care what may happen a few hundred years from now. I’ll be worm food long before any supposed detrimental conditions occur.



And this is why the cause is really a moot point.


If we stop emitting CO2, methane, and other greenhouse gases tomorrow,

the first reversal effects wouldn't even be noticed for 500 years, minimum.

You won't get people to make major life changes for something 500 years from now. Forget about it.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 8:04 pm to
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Thst would be incredibly stupid. Though unsurprising... no one asked you do that. Hell, I follow it a lot closer than you do.



Well, he "follows" it by counting.

You're going to reach 50 pages in this thread without him actually expressing an idea of his own.

Have fun.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173660 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 8:10 pm to
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You're going to reach 50 pages in this thread without him actually expressing an idea of his own.

Probably won't see me trying to add any new ideas to the study of electromagnetic fields either. Guess since I'm not going to add new remarks on the topic in this thread we will assume it to be bullshite in the meantime.

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