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re: What are your reasons for believing climate change is "a hoax"

Posted on 3/7/18 at 4:49 pm to
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 4:49 pm to
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So what is the conspiracy? What's the end game if deniers are the conspirators?



I'm saying the deniers are the conspiracy theorists. The conspirators and the conspiracy theorists are 2 different opposing groups of people.

I can't tell you why people believe in conspiracies but some of them do.

Even our president thinks that global warming is a conspiracy. He has a different angle than the conspiracy theorists here though. He thinks the Chinese are behind it.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
175464 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 4:55 pm to
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So what is the conspiracy?

Depends on who you ask

Here is Donald Trump's conspiracy theorist angle on the subject.

LINK

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The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive.


Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 5:00 pm to
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It’s “difficult” to model, because it’s chasing a causality that doesn’t exist

I'm glad you cleared that up. I will completely ignore all further scientific development on this issue since you have supreme knowledge on the matter.

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As one of my mentors one noted “if you’re struggling to model something, it’s probably your model that’s broke, not the real world.”

I'm almost sold on the conspiracy from this anecdote.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 5:03 pm to
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He thinks the Chinese are behind it.


He's such a idiot. What does us raising taxes on our polluters and slightly higher prices for energy and CO2 producing industries have to do with China and their cheap arse goods?
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 5:04 pm to
Global Warming (what it was originally called before libs changed the name to better fit their narrative) is a hoax perpetrated by the Chinese and globalists to crush American industry and manufacturing. The US becomes shackled by burdensome regulation levied against the world but no Asian or 3rd world countries have to follow it.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
175464 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 5:05 pm to
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Global Warming (what it was originally called before libs changed the name to better fit their narrative) is a hoax perpetrated by the Chinese and globalists to crush American industry and manufacturing. The US becomes shackled by burdensome regulation levied against the world but no Asian or 3rd world countries have to follow it.



Someone at least has the balls to admit they're a fricking conspiracy theorist. Welcome aboard!

BTW it was the Bush administration that changed the term to climate change as was pointed out earlier in the thread.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 5:08 pm to
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BTW it was the Bush administration that changed the term to climate change as was pointed out earlier in the thread.




You keep saying this. I don't get what this means. You used "climate change" in the OP because of Bush?
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 5:09 pm to
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Someone at least has the balls to admit they're a fricking conspiracy theorist.

People conspire to fleece the gullible out of their money all the time, using fear as their operative theory.
Not really that complicated.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 5:10 pm to
This shite thread has gone 33pgs?

Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
175464 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 5:10 pm to
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You keep saying this. I don't get what this means. You used "climate change" in the OP because of Bush?



It's just the more common term of the day

And it's the more common term of the day because the Bush administration effectively pushed it into existence

Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
175464 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 5:11 pm to
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People conspire to fleece the gullible out of their money all the time, using fear as their operative theory.
Not really that complicated.



So do you think there is a conspiracy in this case? sure sounds like it
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
111554 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 5:12 pm to
Why'd you let them hoodwink you like that?
Posted by Big Chipper
Charlotte, NC
Member since Sep 2008
2980 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 5:12 pm to
Prog filth is for it...tells me all I need to know it's a scam.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
178241 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 5:12 pm to
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Someone at least has the balls to admit they're a fricking conspiracy theorist. Welcome aboard!

The real conspiracy theorist is someone who wants to give up more of their money and redistribute wealth in order to change the earth's temperature which goes through natural cycles over the billions of years.
Posted by LetsgoGamecocks
Member since Sep 2014
2916 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 5:13 pm to
The hockey stick data from East Anglican University that the climate change lie is based was all manipulated
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 5:13 pm to
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If you do not believe in the basis for a theory it has to be conspiracy?


Yup. Because what you're implying is that there are several thousand scientists all in on some elaborate scheme.

AKA a conspiracy.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 5:14 pm to
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This shite thread has gone 33pgs?



Thats nothing! This "global warming/Ice age/climate change/weather disruption" con game has been going on for the last half century!
Posted by steadytiger
Member since Jan 2007
2756 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 5:14 pm to
How can it be a hoax, when it is a proven fact that climate is a changing.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
175464 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 5:14 pm to
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Why'd you let them hoodwink you like that?

I just said I used the term because it's the more common term of the day

Really a trivial part of this discussion

What is rather interesting is people are rolling in here now openly saying that this shite is a conspiracy. I never knew we had so many conspiracy theorists here! (actually, yes I did, some are just unwilling to admit that's what they are)
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
175464 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 5:16 pm to
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Yup. Because what you're implying is that there are several thousand scientists all in on some elaborate scheme.

AKA a conspiracy.

Pretty simple when you get down to it

But thankfully we have finance guys in here that know better than the scientists. Must take extraordinary talent to combat the total summation of all of this research in your spare time.
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