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re: What Are Your Arguments Against Bill Barr’s Determination The Evidence Was Not Fraudulent?

Posted on 6/23/22 at 5:51 pm to
Posted by Torqued Pork
Malvern
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 6/23/22 at 5:51 pm to
Barr is kissing the asses of people who called him a Trump lackey and wanted to impeach him, but bygawd he's not going to miss any D.C. cocktail parties for Trump or anyone else.

Stabbing Trump in the back has its perks.
This post was edited on 6/23/22 at 6:15 pm
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36005 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 5:52 pm to
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The margin of the election was so small that a difference that’s honestly within the margin of error of our current tabulation processes decided the election. To assuredly proclaim there wasn’t enough fraud to sway the election is to know the unknowable.


But you snd others can assuredly proclaim each and every day that Trump really won. You know the unknowable, but I don’t?

The fact is you and others are trying to prove the unknown without evidence.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42564 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 5:53 pm to
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Why would Barr lie if there was evidence.

Dd he ever say he actually looked at any evidence???

If not, then he should not have affirmed the result.

He only said he had not 'seen' any evidence. Didn't say even if he looked - just that nobody showed it to him.

I am disappointed in him - by speaking out as he did - he gave it the imprimatur of his office = but I have not seen one instance where there was ANY investigation of any sort done. It was just all based on 'they said it was all OK.'

'they" lied. and had reason to lie. and prove it by fighting any attempt for 3rd party oversight = it is all = "trust us" - and "don't bother us"

I will never be convinced it was at all "secure" - it is within the possibility that it was close, but that would have to be shown by something other than the statement of the winners.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
30574 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 5:55 pm to
You would be screaming bloody murder if it were the other way around.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146683 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 5:56 pm to
Barr is protecting the institution.

Barr even set Trump up for all of it afterwards & J6th by stating in public that mail in ballots were rampant with fraud.

He even hinted at his specialty in recognizing and prosecuting seeping marxism in govt, subversion, destabilization tactics and how we were all watching it.

Then after J6th bait was set he did a 180 for the kill shot.

This post was edited on 6/23/22 at 5:58 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111508 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 6:00 pm to
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But you snd others can assuredly proclaim each and every day that Trump really won. You know the unknowable, but I don’t?


Do I? Or are you just typing in stereo?

Given the irregularities of the voting patterns, you could (with evidence) convince me that Trump’s team had a fair amount of (charitably) vote harvesting. And that at the best, their efforts skirted legalities.

There’s so much nonsense data out there from AZ, MI, WI, GA and PA, that’s it’s dumb to proclaim we know what happened in the election.

It reminded me of watching the Detroit Piston teams of old. They fouled on every play and knew the ref couldn’t/wouldn’t call all of the fouls.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42564 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 6:08 pm to
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Barr even set Trump up for all of it afterwards & J6th by stating in public that mail in ballots were rampant with fraud.

Yeah - I';m having trouble accepting Barr's word any more - big disappointment.
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
5312 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 6:11 pm to
Statistics are broken frequently. Look at how many statistics are broken in one fell swoop with anything you’d like them compare that to the election and you have anecdotal evidence.

Then add to that the number of counties that determined the election, the behavior of those counties, covering windows where poll watchers were not allowed to view, video evidence where the polls were closed only to have suitcases of ballots unloaded, Biden’s vote trend line and the effort (or lack thereof) Biden put into campaigning, and you can see a really clear picture that massive frickery was going on. Enough to change the election? You can argue all day long one way or the other if it was “enough” but there was a LOT. Just look at potato joes voting graph. It shot literally straight up. Not subtlety up but straight up. Mail in ballots were going to favor Biden by a bit, but not in a straight up trend line. Why were ballots allowed and counted after the close of the deadline? Why were hundreds of thousands of envelopes discarded? Why are liberals so hellbent on not encouraging vote validation of any sorts. I can keep going if you’d like but this election has 0% chance of being legit.
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
15842 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 6:32 pm to
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Dd he ever say he actually looked at any evidence???


Yes. They testified today that the DoJ looked into many requests from Trump.

quote:

If not, then he should not have affirmed the result.


The DoJ isn't responsible for affirming election results.

Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
30574 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 6:36 pm to
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Yes. They testified today that the DoJ looked into many requests from Trump.


Barr is lying and is a traitor.

You know in your heart they rigged an election to get rid of a man that cut off their gravy train.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36005 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 6:39 pm to
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Given the irregularities of the voting patterns, you could (with evidence) convince me that Trump’s team had a fair amount of (charitably) vote harvesting. And that at the best, their efforts skirted legalities.


Trump’s team? Or do you mean Biden’s tesm?

And yes, with EVIDENCE I could believe the Dem’s counted done fraudulent votes.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111508 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 6:40 pm to
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Trump’s team? Or do you mean Biden’s tesm?


Trump’s team.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31483 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 6:46 pm to
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Number of Posts: 53
Registered on: 2/9/2022

Lol nice try, Liz.
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
15842 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 6:51 pm to
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You know in your heart they rigged an election


Lol. No. Investigations and audits have shown no evidence.

All the wild claims were debunked.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111508 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 6:52 pm to
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Investigations and audits have shown no evidence.


This is the canary in the coal mine of your stupidity.
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
15842 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 6:52 pm to
You don't know what evidence is.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111508 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 6:54 pm to
I do. I also can tell the different between “no evidence” and “inconclusive evidence.”

Something that is beyond your ken.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19448 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 6:55 pm to
Try watching 2000 Mules with an open mind and an honest eye.



Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
30574 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 6:57 pm to
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All the wild claims were debunked.


Yeah…no standing. Hard to present evidence without anyone willing to look at it.

I know you will not acknowledge this, but you know.

You all know the country is majority conservative Christians.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98684 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 6:58 pm to
He and all the others fall back on the same very lawyerly statement that the fraud wasn't "widespread."

As we have learned, fraud in only 1 or 2 counties in a few states could swing the election.

It was strategically targeted, not "widespread" or "substantial."

Lawyers being lawyers, being technically accurate, but prevaricating all the same.
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