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re: West Point Iced the Prez

Posted on 5/29/14 at 9:17 am to
Posted by tigress77
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Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 9:17 am to
From Veteran's kids being denied what is by law due them as far as education benefits, to the doubling and tripling of wait times for disability benefits, to the negligence and criminal fraud in VA hospitals all occurring during this Admin.

Not surprising when you understand that Liberals loathe the Military/Industrial complex, and Hilary of course being a Lib has the same attitude.

The reason behind all this is to dismantle the all volunteer military in favor of the "equality" of a draft.
Most drafts in the history of the country have been done under a Dem prez. From Liberal fav FDR to Dem prez Johnson who drafted 18 year olds to Vietnam.
It was Dem Prez Carter who resumed the registration requirement.
Oh, all you college kids that continue to vote for the Dems, know this, if Dems are successful dismantling the all volunteer military,(pretty much a vote for Hilary will do it);you will be drafted under the new draft rules, and you will have until the end of the semester to report, being in college wont make you ineligible anymore.

This post was edited on 5/29/14 at 9:50 am
Posted by darkhorse
Member since Aug 2012
7701 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:06 am to
Only 25% of the cadets gave him a standing ovation when he was introduced.

I don't think that has ever happened to a US president.

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Posted by Tigah in the ATL
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2005
27539 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:21 am to
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but there was a time in this country when people, especially at a place like West Point, would give proper respect for the office.
what time was that exactly?

It needs to be before JFK.
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
50278 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:35 am to
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Draconian Sanctions
quote:

get over yourself
Posted by KoolHndLuke
Texas
Member since Mar 2014
115 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:37 am to
So Obama has changed how people look at the President and now you get mad when others as you say disrespect it? No one has disrespected that office more than Obama...
Posted by tigress77
BR
Member since Sep 2013
322 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 11:00 am to
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pretty sad that some people have such little respect for the office


And you were sad about the daily ridicule of Bush? or for that matter, Ronald Reagan?
Posted by darkhorse
Member since Aug 2012
7701 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 11:06 am to
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what time was that exactly?

It needs to be before JFK.



Uh.... Bush got a standing ovation in 2008. Only 25% did that to obama this year.

Foreign leaders ares peaking openly about how Obama's foreign policy is not good. Former president of Poland blasted him in the media saying the world can not count on the US, we are absent a roll model. Also stated that we are a super power that refuses to lead.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112730 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 11:49 am to
Being 'cold' at graduation is much better than being 'hot' at graduation:

Baltimore HS video
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 12:55 pm to
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pretty sad that some people have such little respect for the office


I was thinking the same thing. You'd think after 6 years...

quote:

Draconian Sanctions

Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
15089 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 1:21 pm to
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Foreign leaders ares peaking openly about how Obama's foreign policy is not good. Former president of Poland blasted him in the media saying the world can not count on the US, we are absent a roll model. Also stated that we are a super power that refuses to lead.



Maybe the American people are sick and tired of being role models and leading. Let somone else lead? Leading is a hassle and costs a lot of money.



Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73520 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 1:24 pm to
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Maybe the American people are sick and tired of being role models and leading. Let somone else lead? Leading is a hassle and costs a lot of money.
You think that's what Obama is doing?
This post was edited on 5/29/14 at 1:30 pm
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 1:29 pm to
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Let somone else lead? Leading is a hassle and costs a lot of money.


what a very European thing to say
Posted by darkhorse
Member since Aug 2012
7701 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 1:36 pm to
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Maybe the American people are sick and tired of being role models and leading.


I don't think we are considering 38% of the population hate what Obama has done to our foreign policy.

Perhaps... just perhaps, sending patriots and honoring what we promised our allies is a GOOD thing for foreign policy. Was there an ISSUE or reason why we turned our back on Poland? Did they cross us? Did they say bad things about us?

No.. It was just a promise we made under Bush that Obama did not want to happen. Now explain why sending missile defense system to Poland was a bad and horrible thing.
Posted by NWarty
Somewhere in the PNW
Member since Sep 2013
2181 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 1:41 pm to
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From Veteran's kids being denied what is by law due them as far as education benefits.



Wut?

I'm the Education Officer for my state and have seen/heard nothing like this.

There are two forms of Education Benefits. GI Bill and Federal Tuition Assistance and in some cases State National Guard programs/TA/scholarships.

The ONLY time a service member's family would be denied benefits is if the Service Member voluntarily left the service before their 4-year service obligation is up after they did a "Transfer of Education Benefits" (TEB). Any soldier that is involuntarily separated is allowed to retain the TEB to their dependants. Any break in service that exceeds one year (or two for missions) would automatically terminate benefits.

There is no BY LAW that a family member automatically gets Education Benefits. GI Bills Chapter 1606,1607,30 and 33 all have regulations that must be adhered to by the soldier member. That soldier must also have qualifying service time (strictly outlined in the regulation) for Post 9/11 GI Bill.

Federal TA cannot be used by family members.


ETA: I run into several cases where a deceased and retired Soldier did not transfer those GI Bill benefits to their dependants. Of course the family was upset.

Children must be no older than 18 and up to 23 and enrolled in college to be transferred the benefit and cannot use the benefit past age 26. Dependants must also be enrolled in DEERS.

If a soldier dies in a line of duty status (LOD) or killed in combat, even if the soldier did not transfer benefits, each dependant is eligible for 36 months at the full rate. This is GI Bill chapter 35.
This post was edited on 5/29/14 at 2:02 pm
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89753 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 2:18 pm to
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pretty sad that some people have such little respect for the office


Said DS EVERY DAY from Janury 20, 2001 until now.

Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
10699 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 3:00 pm to
I noticed the lack of applause also. I do worry about constitutional issues with the lack of respect. Civilian control over the military is a hallmark of our republic. We don't have military coups in this country which is a good thing. I do worry about the increasing rightward bent of our military officer corps.

The reception to me was troubling. You may not like the president but when the military does not honor the office we are big trouble in this country. All of you right-wingers complain about Obama not respecting the constitution and violating it, but the reception the president received is troubling to those who believe in the Constitution or do not like the constitution but believe in peaceful change of the constitution via the amendment process like me.

A military coup in this country seems more possible now and this is what makes it more troubling. The rightward bent of the officer corps is the biggest threat to our civil and constitutional rights.
This post was edited on 5/29/14 at 3:01 pm
Posted by NWarty
Somewhere in the PNW
Member since Sep 2013
2181 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 3:02 pm to
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I noticed the lack of applause also. I do worry about constitutional issues with the lack of respect. Civilian control over the military is a hallmark of our republic. We don't have military coups in this country which is a good thing. I do worry about the increasing rightward bent of our military officer corps. The reception to me was troubling. You may not like the president but when the military does not honor the office we are big trouble in this country. All of you right-wingers complain about Obama not respecting the constitution and violating it, but the reception the president received is troubling to those who believe in the Constitution or do not like the constitution but believe in peaceful change of the constitution via the amendment process like me. A military coup in this country seems more possible now and this is what makes it more troubling. The rightward bent of the officer corps is the biggest threat to our civil and constitutional rights.


As an officer in the US Army, this is biggest load of crap I've read in a while.
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
10699 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 3:08 pm to
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As an officer in the US Army, this is biggest load of crap I've read in a while.


As an American citizen I found the reception troubling. They should have enthusiastically applauded for their Commander in Chief. He is their supreme commander and was asking them and thanking them for serving their country.

The officer corps in this country has moved to the right and this is very troubling. Our officer corps should reflect the country as a whole and not be a place for one or another political bent. I do believe that we are in danger in the future of a right-wing military takeover in this country.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101887 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 3:09 pm to
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The officer corps in this country has moved to the right and this is very troubling.


As compared to when?
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 3:11 pm to
quote:

As an American citizen I found the reception troubling. They should have enthusiastically applauded for their Commander in Chief. He is their supreme commander and was asking them and thanking them for serving their country.

The officer corps in this country has moved to the right and this is very troubling. Our officer corps should reflect the country as a whole and not be a place for one or another political bent. I do believe that we are in danger in the future of a right-wing military takeover in this country.


with some of your posts...i sometimes wonder if you're serious or trolling
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