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re: Were we deceived about 9/11?

Posted on 6/21/21 at 5:02 pm to
Posted by skeeter531
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 6/21/21 at 5:02 pm to
I have dug into it a lot and I was NOT skeptical for a couple of years...I blindly accepted what the government said happened and then later realized it made no sense.

Furthermore, the co-chair of the 9/11 Commission, Tom Kean, a REPUBLICAN, said they were lied to and stonewalled by the Bush administration.
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 6/21/21 at 5:03 pm to
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I still remain perplexed and skeptical of the phone calls from the planes, especially Solicitor General Ted Olson's claims that his wife phoned him multiple times. Article explaining why this is not likely true--


I was in a plane loaded with communications engineers returning from Quebec to Tampa. When we anded one of the engineers asked the stewardess why there was regulation against using cell phones while in flight ....

Pilots answer when she called him. Interference with the instrumentation. Engineers response? "Keep flying the plane...because you don't a thing about frequencies and shielding."

As low as those planes were flying ....cell phone towers do work as you think ....they operate in a half circle ...as much range straight up and the full circumference.

The communications were real regardless of the shite claimed from a non engineering expert.
Posted by skeeter531
Member since Jun 2014
2487 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 5:09 pm to
ONE un-connected phone call from Barbara Olson is the only phone call the FBI validates. Also, Ted Olson's story changed multiple times. He said first it was a cell phone then said it was the air phone but he also said she called collect from the air phone and that was impossible because you need a credit card to initiate ANY call. None of it adds up right.
Posted by Hennigan
Member since Jan 2020
1351 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 7:10 pm to
Dave McGowan wrote a great series on 9/11. He's a very humorous, talented writer. Even if you aren't into conspiracies, he's worth checking out.

https://centerforaninformedamerica.com/september11/

He's got several other great series: Laurel Canyon / Mk Ultra, Boston Bombing, Lincoln's Assassination, and the Moon Landings.
This post was edited on 6/22/21 at 7:40 am
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38536 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 7:13 pm to
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Twin Towers same but another story as owner had recently bought, insured 10x value and needed asbestos removal done and it was practically made of asbestos making removal cost prohibitive. Solution? Demo building and don’t give a shite about all New Yorkers inhaling asbestos for weeks afterwards

Good fricking christ, you fricking idiot.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42512 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 7:21 pm to
Who knows.

I sure as shite don’t trust the Bush boys.
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
26786 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 7:28 pm to
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I imagine we’ve been deceived about most of the major events that have taken place the past 100 or so years. Maybe longer.

This.
Posted by BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Member since May 2019
7439 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 8:16 pm to
nbc article

This always seemed weirdly coincidental to me. A widow (who became an activist) of a 9/11 victim met with Obama at the White House regarding the attacks, and then she died in a plane crash the following week. What are the odds of that?

She had refused the 9/11 victims payout and instead wanted truth and accountability for the breakdown of the intelligence community leading up to the attacks. She even published a manifesto titled "My Silence Cannot be Bought".
Posted by Marcus Aurelius
LA
Member since Oct 2020
3900 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 8:22 pm to
I can't read that, but pretty insane talk. This is why nothing important ever really gets done in DC...We The People are talking about non-sense.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
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Posted on 6/21/21 at 9:00 pm to
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This post was edited on 6/21/21 at 9:04 pm
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23837 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 9:11 pm to
Another weird coincidence: 7 WTC — which inexplicably collapsed just like a controlled demolition— was a veritable beehive of Deep State tenets: the IRS, the Securities and Exchange Commission, the DoD, the Secret Service, and — wait for it — the CIA. What records were destroyed in that building?

Mystery surrounds loss of records on 9/11:

…..The trade center was home to more than 430 companies, including law firms, manufacturers and financial institutions. Twenty-one libraries were destroyed, including that of The Journal of Commerce. Dozens of federal, state and local government agencies were at the site, including the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission and the Securities and Exchange Commission. The Central Intelligence Agency had a clandestine office on the 25th floor of 7 World Trade Center, which also housed the city's emergency command center and an outpost of the U.S. Secret Service.
This post was edited on 6/21/21 at 9:32 pm
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23837 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 9:27 pm to
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We The People are talking about non-sense.


Discussing the true motives and actors that plotted the worst terror attack in American history — which has ushered in an era of permanent warfare and the erection of a massive and unConstitutional surveillance apparatus — is hardly nonsense.

We should never forget that Osama Bin Laden and the Afghan mujahideen — via funding through Pakistan’s national security apparatus — were CIA assets.

At the very least, the alphabet intelligence agencies are collectively complicit in the 9/11 attack because of deliberate sins of omission.

FBI and CIA fight it out over who was to blame for September 11 blunders….
This post was edited on 6/22/21 at 6:38 am
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
25780 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 9:37 pm to
Damn, the Democrat lovin Libertarians are working hard in this thread.
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
26719 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 9:39 pm to
I never understood how a single plane can destroy a building of that size.
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 6/22/21 at 3:02 am to
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So many moving parts to pull that off.


Not really, there were 4 planes hijacked by 19 foreigners.

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My only issue is that 9/11 being a government undertaking would require A LOT of people remaining silent for the duration.


There’s a group that does this for a living, called the CIA. When you consider the type of people that run these organizations (Mueller and Brennan come to mind) and what they did the last 5 years framing a President, then consider the deck plate level intelligence of the hijackers that was ignored by top levels of the FBI (the same level that had no problem framing a President and had the help of the media to ignore it) then it becomes pretty easy to understand how 9/11 could be pulled off. People were skeptical then and that was before the Information Age.

You think a bunch of communists willing to spy on and frame a President, that rig elections before the eyes of 300 million Americans wouldn’t fly a plane into a building with the help of a foreigner that no one in this country had heard of or would hear from again?
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 6/22/21 at 3:13 am to
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How did they know who the terrorists were so quickly


Because the top levels of the FBI ignored multiple local Agent in Charge memo’s that alerted to the hijackers suspicious pilot training in multiple cities. So they already had their names from that on top of the fact that they basically hired them to do it.

There’s also the knowledge of the terrorist meetings in Indonesia in 2000 and the Hamburg cell, which was conveniently ignored. This screams CIA op with associated cover up, I mean who monitors this type of intelligence then ignores it? The excuse was intelligence failure and failure to share info. But the 2 decades since has taught us these things aren’t intelligence failures, it’s “the intelligence community is full of shite” failures.
This post was edited on 6/22/21 at 3:35 am
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 6/22/21 at 4:04 am to
I believe we let it happen, just like Pearl Harbor. We had a dozen countries warn us about 9/11. It was said that an attack from air by hijacked aircraft were going to strike on the week of September 9th. And that doesn’t include our own intelligence. Rumsfeld took over the war games activity 6 months before the attack, and for some reason most of our jets were out playing war games the week several countries said we were going to be attacked. The free fall way they went down always seemed suspect to me. There should have been hundreds of miles of steel laying around that seemed to just disintegrate. All of evidence was removed from the country within 11 days. We know now that the US had intelligence an attack on Pearl Harbor was coming. There are some good documentaries based on released and leaked documents. They moved some of our best ships from the main area right before the attack.

I believe stuff like this happens to drum up support for war, because Americans would never go for it. I mean, they loaded the Lusitania with weapons hoping the Germans would sink it. They did. The gulf of Tonkin attack was fabricated to enter the Vietnam war. The sinking of the USS Maine was dubious and has long thought to be a false flag to enter that Spanish war. They lied about WOMD to go into Iraq the second time.

If you don’t think our government would do shady shite to enter wars, look up Operation Northwoods. They were going to take out our own airliners with Americans on them to justify going after Cuba. Every single person up to the joint chiefs signed off on it except JFK, who refused.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 6/22/21 at 4:13 am to
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The biggest indicator of our government either orchestrating a false flag or knowing about something before it happens is if there is freedom stripping legislation already drafted and ready to go immediately after the event.


And they want to have their own home grown US citizen Patriot Act to go after “the biggest threat to this country”: white supremacy. AKA, be able to spy on political dissenters and jail them for trumped up crimes. Don’t fall for the trap.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 6/22/21 at 4:19 am to
The latest theory is some type of energy weapon because you can see huge columns of steel disintegrate in mid air, among many other anomalies. A professor wrote a book on the theory called, “Where did the towers go?” There are some YouTube videos that summarizes it. Interesting to say the least.

One thing I think everyone can agree on. A lot of things don’t add up that day. Kind of like something else that just happened last November. The investigation of 9/11 was considered by just about everyone to be a whitewash sham.
This post was edited on 6/22/21 at 4:27 am
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 6/22/21 at 4:22 am to
Being there and knowing people there doesn’t mean much in the grand scheme of things. A lot was going on. Just look at what evidence we have left.
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