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Were the Anti-vaxxers Right all Along?
Posted on 5/24/22 at 11:58 am
Posted on 5/24/22 at 11:58 am
I'm not just talking about Covid here, but before then. There has been a very vocal and very ostracized segment of society for decades that have been claiming that vaccines are bad science. And that the programs were being run by evil people.
Seems to me they hit the latter on the head. The question is in the former.
Seems to me they hit the latter on the head. The question is in the former.
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:00 pm to BoarEd
No, they were not. We'd still be getting smallpox and polio otherwise.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:00 pm to BoarEd
well if it wasn't true, then its sure is now.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:01 pm to BoarEd
I think in general, vaccines are good science. I'm glad I didn't get polio, for example. But each vaccine needs to stand on its own - and I'm not sure an experimental mRNA vaccine doesn't cause more damage than it cures.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:02 pm to BoarEd
No. Most vaccines are solid science that wasn’t political and protects from things that are actually serious. You could make solid arguments against the rate we vaccinate people at age wise though. People who are against the Covid vaccines by a large majority are not anti vaxxers leftist are just idiots who don’t comprehend nuance.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:02 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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No, they were not. We'd still be getting smallpox and polio otherwise.
How do we know there aren't other, more effective treatments?
We saw it with Covid.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:02 pm to BoarEd
They're probably right in the sense that you can't really rely on expert consensus or media/government pressure to be in your best interest
But they're not right in the sense that just like the COVID debacle, those against the vaccines suffer from confirmation bias and will swallow 20 lies by bad actors but believe the 1 unpopular truth they adopt makes their entire approach valid.
But they're not right in the sense that just like the COVID debacle, those against the vaccines suffer from confirmation bias and will swallow 20 lies by bad actors but believe the 1 unpopular truth they adopt makes their entire approach valid.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:03 pm to BoarEd
Vaccines are great.
mRNA therapy is not a vaccine.
mRNA therapy is not a vaccine.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:04 pm to BoarEd
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How do we know there aren't other, more effective treatments?
Well with polio, it would be hard to be more effective and if you’re a treatment and not a prevention you are already less effective.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:05 pm to BoarEd
Because nothing is more effective than totally preventing/erraticating it.
Anti vax mandate people in 2021 were correct. The antivaxxers of 2018 fame and all prior very much were not. Theres a colossal difference between opposing something that has been used for many decades and mandating a rushed experimental vax. This is a bad argument.
Anti vax mandate people in 2021 were correct. The antivaxxers of 2018 fame and all prior very much were not. Theres a colossal difference between opposing something that has been used for many decades and mandating a rushed experimental vax. This is a bad argument.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:06 pm to Rebel
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Vaccines are great.
Vaccines have had their successes, no doubt. But I wonder at what point was the pharmaceutical industry corrupted. For quite some time the link between vaccines and autism has existed.
And people still line up to get flu vaccines while natural remedies do exist. Again, we saw it with Covid. A novel coronavirus.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:06 pm to BoarEd
I think anyone who’s against vaccines as a whole, are crazy. There are vaccines that are 100% legit, and we needed them, like polio or smallpox vaccines. I do understand people’s hesitancy when it comes to flu or covid shots though. Those are not as effective as other vaccines out there, mostly because the flu and covid viruses, are different than polio or smallpox viruses.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:07 pm to BoarEd
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I'm not just talking about Covid here,
Good, because the therapeutic mRNA shot is not a vaccine
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:11 pm to BoarEd
The difference is the shots for polio, smallpox, etc. are vaccines. The Fauci Ouchie is not but it was touted as one all along until it wasn't when the "breakthrough cases" started popping up
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:12 pm to BoarEd
Call me crazy but, I don't think anyone should be forced to take something.
If it costs them, so be it.
If it costs them, so be it.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:15 pm to BoarEd
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How do we know there aren't other, more effective treatments?
We saw it with Covid.
Smallpox and polio vaccines both above 95% effective at preventing infection at a very cheap cost.
Hard to be more effective than that.
Even with COVID, which is a very leaky vaccine, the low cost of it makes it a fairly effective treatment. Sure there are things which might be attached to a better outcome, but they are so resource intensive you can’t really use the moniker of efficient with them.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:15 pm to LC Baw
Again, for quite some time the vaccines have been linked to autism and people still line up for the flu vaccine even though natural remedies exist.
I fully understand that the gene therapy jab that they're giving for Covid isn't a vaccine. As I said in the OP, I'm not just talking about Covid. But before as well.
It seems to me that the pharmaceutical industry is a legit threat to mankind and has been for awhile.
It's no coincidence that these viruses are popping up just before elections.
We are entering the waters of medical tyranny.
I fully understand that the gene therapy jab that they're giving for Covid isn't a vaccine. As I said in the OP, I'm not just talking about Covid. But before as well.
It seems to me that the pharmaceutical industry is a legit threat to mankind and has been for awhile.
It's no coincidence that these viruses are popping up just before elections.
We are entering the waters of medical tyranny.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:17 pm to BoarEd
I hear you and agree with you. I just wanted to mainly note that the COVID symptom suppressor is not a vaccine 
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:18 pm to BoarEd
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at what point was the pharmaceutical industry corrupted
The moment rockerfeller got involved
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:20 pm to BoarEd
At least there is SOME data on prior vaccines.
I took the Prevnar with some years of data behind it. Not 12 months and an EUA.
But I became anti flu vax because I never got the flu until my company made me get the vax.
I took the Prevnar with some years of data behind it. Not 12 months and an EUA.
But I became anti flu vax because I never got the flu until my company made me get the vax.
This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 12:49 pm
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