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re: Welp, it's done: the liberals won in the SBC election

Posted on 6/16/21 at 4:00 pm to
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 6/16/21 at 4:00 pm to
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Everyone's done that, bruh,


No everyone has not. The SBC has never killed people because they refuse to become Southern Baptist!
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57980 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 4:04 pm to
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The difference is my church has an infallible founder with fallible men running it.



Yes. Let us know when the idea of Papal infallibility was first voted on and passed by the RCC.?
Or you can simply pretend it’s always been a church doctrine!
This post was edited on 6/16/21 at 4:04 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65086 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 4:06 pm to
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The SBC has never killed people because they refuse to become Southern Baptist!



I'm talking about the denominations that are more than a minute old. The SBC has only been around since 1845. That's a lap at Talladega Superspeedway compared to the Catholic or Orthodox Church. The SBC had graduated from killing religious opponents to defending slavery by that point.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57980 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 4:06 pm to
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Sin is sin.


No it isn’t. Sure sin has the same eternal consequences if one is never born again and repents, but you certainly can’t tell me the sin of sexually abusing a child is equal to let’s say, gluttony?
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65086 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 4:08 pm to
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Let us know when the idea of Papal infallibility was first voted on and passed by the RCC.


"You are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it. I will give to you the keys to the Kingdom of Heaven. Whatsoever you bind on Earth will be bound in Heaven, and whatsoever you loose on Earth will be loosed in Heaven.."
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57980 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 4:09 pm to
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You are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it. I will give to you the keys to the Kingdom of Heaven. Whatsoever you bind on Earth will be bound in Heaven, and whatsoever you loose on Earth will be loosed in Heaven.."


This is funny. Now tell me when the idea that Peter was the first Pope was invented by the RCC
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 4:11 pm to
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PCA is on a similar trajectory as the SBC. In fact, they may be I little ahead of the SBC in that regard.


Lutherans and their Missouri Synnod are well on their way as well.

Faith begins in the home. Christianity will endure. But organized religion is horrific in almost all of its forms throughout history. And if you don’t believe me remember that it was organized religion that condemned and murdered Jesus .
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 4:12 pm to
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The difference is my church has an infallible founder with fallible men running it.


The Catholic Church is responsible for countless horrific atrocities most of which were happily accepted and led by Popes. Weird flex, bro.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65086 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 4:13 pm to
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Now tell me when the idea that Peter was the first Pope was invented by the RCC


"Since, however, it would be very tedious, in such a volume as this, to reckon up the successions of all the Churches, we do put to confusion all those who, in whatever manner, whether by an evil self-pleasing, by vainglory, or by blindness and perverse opinion, assemble in unauthorized meetings; [we do this, I say,] by indicating that tradition derived from the apostles, of the very great, the very ancient, and universally known Church founded and organized at Rome by the two most glorious apostles, Peter and Paul; as also [by pointing out] the faith preached to men, which comes down to our time by means of the successions of the bishops. For it is a matter of necessity that every Church should agree with this Church, on account of its preeminent authority." - St. Irenaeus of Lyons, Against Heresies, A.D. 180
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
6022 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 4:13 pm to
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Sin is sin.


No it isn’t. Sure sin has the same eternal consequences if one is never born again and repents, but you certainly can’t tell me the sin of sexually abusing a child is equal to let’s say, gluttony?


OK, I've mostly been taught by Southern Baptist churches that it's equal...wages of sin is death.

But if you are looking at God's greatest outrage and punishments? It seems that's usually reserved for church leaders who are hypocritical, prideful, and misuse their power. I do understand that there were examples of Sodom's punishment, but look at your New Testament punishments or words of Jesus to the Sadducees and Pharisees.
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 4:17 pm to
The Catholic Church is not the end all be all of the Christian religion.

And if Jesus showed up today the Pope would have him crucified upside down inside Vatican City on broadcast television. You know Vatican City? The enormous walled empire capital built on stolen treasures and housing incalculable wealth, greed, vanity, gluttony, and lust that the Pope lives in and occasionally claims to speak directly to and for God from?

Last time He showed up to a religion built around waiting for him the leaders of that religion tortured and murdered him and his closest friends. The RCC would do the same.
This post was edited on 6/16/21 at 4:43 pm
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57980 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 4:19 pm to
It’s really weird how the guy Catholics claim to be the first Pope was never recognized as such by the early church or the disciples. Or how Peter’s advice was never solely sought out by the other disciples with issues of doctrine.
Or how the guy who the RCC calls the first Pope and infallible, cursed and denied he even knew Jesus, after supposedly being given to keys to heaven!
In fact , In the same passage where Jesus supposedly calls Peter the rock, a few verses later, he calls him Satan!

Matthew 16:18
And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hellfn shall not prevail against it.
19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosedfn in heaven.”
20 Then he strictly charged the disciples to tell no one that he was the Christ.
21 ¶ From that time Jesus began to show his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things from the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and on the third day be raised.
22 And Peter took him aside and began to rebuke him, saying, “Far be it from you, Lord!fn This shall never happen to you.”
23 But he turned and said to Peter, “Get behind me, Satan! You are a hindrance to me
This post was edited on 6/16/21 at 4:56 pm
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16438 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 4:25 pm to
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I merely said that Rogers has (had) little understanding of Calvinism. That’s certain.


I think Adrian understood your soteriology just fine. Didn't agree with it but that's not the same as not understanding it.

As he told D.James Kennedy once, "I'll come over when you go under.'
Posted by CaptSpaulding
Member since Feb 2012
6505 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 4:26 pm to
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Again, you really need to read what this guy has said. The SBC needs to focus efforts on evangelism, period. To all people. Focusing on race is the opposite of a focus on evangelism.


If you have a problem with what you quoted, then there’s another guy whose words I’d recommend you spend time reading.
Posted by TK421
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2011
10411 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 4:30 pm to
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Couple times, yeah.


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Got any examples?


These two remarks don't mesh.

You can start with Josiah and go from there.
Posted by TK421
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2011
10411 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 4:32 pm to
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Sure sin has the same eternal consequences if one is never born again and repents, but you certainly can’t tell me the sin of sexually abusing a child is equal to let’s say, glutton


Sounds like something a fat arse would say to justify their eating habits.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57980 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 4:34 pm to
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Sounds like something a fat arse would say to justify their eating habits.


I’m not fat at all.
Let me ask you a simple question.
Would you prefer your neighbor over feed your son or rape him?
This post was edited on 6/16/21 at 4:36 pm
Posted by Alyosha
Member since Nov 2020
6785 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 4:43 pm to
Great stuff indeed
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 4:44 pm to
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Would you prefer your neighbor over feed your son or rape him?


I’d prefer neither. Both are bad. Sin is sin. You can beg forgiveness from the Lord or you can burn in Hell’s eternal fire.

Comparing the “badness” of sins or holding yourself as a better person because you sin “less bad” than others is just a vanity trick by the devil that you’re falling for.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50468 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 4:47 pm to
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If you have a problem with what you quoted, then there’s another guy whose words I’d recommend you spend time reading.


If you don't have a problem with what I quoted, then I guess I can understand why you're confused about Litton. How far into the false doctrine of CRT will he need to go for you to admit you are wrong?
This post was edited on 6/16/21 at 4:48 pm
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