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re: Welp, it's done: the liberals won in the SBC election
Posted on 6/16/21 at 4:55 pm to Revelator
Posted on 6/16/21 at 4:55 pm to Revelator
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It’s really weird how the guy Catholics claim to be the first Pope was never recognized as such by the early church or the disciples.
To even make the claim, they have to lie about the church's history. It is impossible to trace the beginnings of the Catholic church to Peter. It's a completely false claim.
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Posted on 6/16/21 at 4:55 pm to Nguyener
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Sin is sin.
I don’t remember God demanding the death penalty for overeating.
Sure Jesus died for all sins and sin that isn’t covered by the blood of Christ will send you to Hell. But it’s flippant to pretend all sin harms the body of Christ or a believer the same way.
This post was edited on 6/16/21 at 5:00 pm
Posted on 6/16/21 at 5:00 pm to FooManChoo
Head to that guy Tony Spell’s church (think that’s his name) in Baton Rouge. He’s about as far right as they come. Doesn’t like JBE and doesn’t like “sissy pastors” either.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 5:00 pm to Revelator
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I don’t remember God dictating the death penalty for overeatin
The penalty for all sin is death. Unless you ask forgiveness and repent you will not be reborn through Christ in the Father. Over eating is a sin. Sins prevent one from inheriting the kingdom of heaven.
“Ranking the badness” of sin is unnecessary at best and dangerous at worst. Sin is bad. All of them.
This post was edited on 6/16/21 at 5:02 pm
Posted on 6/16/21 at 5:08 pm to Nguyener
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The penalty for all sin is death.
No one is disputing this. I’m saying not all sins affects the believer or body of Christ in the same way.
To the lost man, sure, any one of his sins will send him to Hell. To the born again, all sin isn’t equal.
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Ranking the badness” of sin is unnecessary at best and dangerous at worst. Sin is bad. All of them.
Why then did Jesus say,” it would be better to tie a milestone around your neck and be tossed into the sea than cause one of these little ones to stumble?”
Why single it out at all?
Or why say blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is unforgivable in this lifetime or the next?
Or why did he say this,” Jesus answered him, “You would have no authority over me at all unless it had been given you from above. Therefore he who delivered me over to you Jesus answered him, “You would have no authority over me at all unless it had been given you from above. Therefore he who delivered me over to you has the greater sin.”
This post was edited on 6/16/21 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 6/16/21 at 5:10 pm to DesScorp
I am in the Methodist church, and we are facing a split over the same issue.
LGBTQ have always been welcome as church members/attendees, but we have not performed same sex marriages or had LGBTQ persons in the pulpit or in leadership positions.
I happen to side with the faction that is not against gays have some sort of ceremony of union as a couple... but not in the church, as until God convinces me otherwise, same sex marriages are not within the institution that He created. Nor do I believe that openly practicing avowed gays should be in leadership positions, due to the fact that even though God loves them just as much as me or anybody else, that still doesn't mean He approves of their lifestyle.
LGBTQ have always been welcome as church members/attendees, but we have not performed same sex marriages or had LGBTQ persons in the pulpit or in leadership positions.
I happen to side with the faction that is not against gays have some sort of ceremony of union as a couple... but not in the church, as until God convinces me otherwise, same sex marriages are not within the institution that He created. Nor do I believe that openly practicing avowed gays should be in leadership positions, due to the fact that even though God loves them just as much as me or anybody else, that still doesn't mean He approves of their lifestyle.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 5:29 pm to Revelator
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The penalty for all sin is death.
No one is disputing this.
You the post before: I don’t remember God dictating the death penalty for overeatin
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To the lost man, sure, any one of his sins will send him to Hell. To the born again, all sin isn’t equal.
You’re saying being born again gives you the ability to sin without consequence? Because that’s absolutely not true.
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Why then did Jesus say,” it would be better to tie a milestone around your neck and be tossed into the sea than cause one of these little ones to stumble?” Why single it out at all?
He also singled out gluttony and vanity
Posted on 6/16/21 at 5:36 pm to Nguyener
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You’re saying being born again gives you the ability to sin without consequence? Because that’s absolutely not true.
Nope. You are reading things into what I posted while totally ignoring what I said about the consequences of particular sins.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 5:53 pm to Revelator
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Let me ask you a simple question.
Would you prefer your neighbor over feed your son or rape him?
When Jesus said to fix the plank in your own eye before worrying about the speck of dust in your neighbor's eye, would your response have been "but I don't even have a plank in my eye!"
Even now, you are likely a fat arse that has made an idol of Trump, but at least you're not a child molester.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 7:43 pm to TK421
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Even now, you are likely a fat arse that has made an idol of Trump, but at least you're not a child molester.
Opposition to CRT and women pastors (which is what Ed Litton supports) is not equivalent to idol worship and is 100% Biblically sound.
This post was edited on 6/16/21 at 7:44 pm
Posted on 6/16/21 at 8:19 pm to TK421
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When Jesus said to fix the plank in your own eye before worrying about the speck of dust in your neighbor's eye, would your response have been "but I don't even have a plank in my eye!"
I don’t understand how this has anything to do with what I posted.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 8:31 pm to squid_hunt
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but sodomy is pretty close to top of the list in God's eyes.
He destroyed an entire city because of it.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 8:32 pm to imjustafatkid
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Opposition to CRT and women pastors (which is what Ed Litton supports) is not equivalent to idol worship and is 100% Biblically sound.
Who said it was?
There are plenty of Baptists that worship Trump and even more that deny the rampant racism and sexism in southern evangelical circles.
Opposition to CRT in this context has nothing to do with CRT itself, it has to do with an inability to on the part of white southerners to admit their faults.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 8:32 pm to Revelator
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I don’t understand how this has anything to do with what I posted.
Vanity has a way of blinding you.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 8:37 pm to Revelator
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But he turned and said to Peter, “Get behind me, Satan! You are a hindrance to me
If Jesus said that Peter is the same as Satan, I guess that means that Jesus sent Peter to Hell then, right? Peter must be in Hell, right?
Posted on 6/16/21 at 8:43 pm to aubie101
quote:I hope this is not the case at Mercer. For the last 10 or 15 years, they have had an alternative core curriculum based on the Great Books. If the CRT freaks get control there is no way that will stand.
CRT is leaking into SBC linked universities. It is a soft introduction at some, but it is slowly making it's way in.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 8:58 pm to L.A.
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34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
So one of a few things has to be correct, yes?
1. Either that stuff did come to pass, but Jesus meant something other than how we interpret it
2. Jesus was mistaken that all of that would come to pass
3. Specifically, "This generation shall not pass" meant something different than what we think
Of those possibilities I think the 2nd one is the least likely. I think it's much more likely that we don't understand what he was talking about there than it is that he didn't understand what he was talking about.
So I'm not convinced by that particular passage.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 8:59 pm to Champagne
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If Jesus said that Peter is the same as Satan,
I never said that.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 9:03 pm to wackatimesthree
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Either that stuff did come to pass, but Jesus meant something other than how we interpret it
And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
Jesus first states all the things that will happen throughout history but says, these aren’t signs of the end.
Then Jesus tells them what is the sign of the end, the generation who witnesses the Abomination of Desolation.
This post was edited on 6/16/21 at 9:31 pm
Posted on 6/16/21 at 9:06 pm to DesScorp
I like how Erick Erickson said it wasn't really all that bad.
He's such a insufferable establishment loving f*ggot.
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