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re: Well, Rand Paul Surprise on Bergdahl (maybe)

Posted on 6/3/14 at 5:42 pm to
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
92776 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 5:42 pm to
Good luck finding a candidate trying to save their seat this upcoming election to side with Bergdahl.

Bergdahl|------------------|everyone else
Posted by HarveyDent
Harvey
Member since May 2014
58 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 5:55 pm to
Guy, what are you arguing with me about? I am agreeing with you, he doesn't fit the legal description of a POW, that's why the swap happened. The Taliban had it both ways. They could argue NEVER letting him go, because, more or less, he appears to have left his ranks.

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He isnt a prisoner. He's a deserter.


And the two terms in the same sentence doesn't validate one over the other. Berghdahl was definitely a prisoner, he wasn't free to leave the Taliban. He was detained by them, for 5 years.

Again, you are correct, no one called him a POW. A soldiers' dead body isn't a POW. But we try to get them back all the same.

Now, if you want to call him a defector, a traitor, then we can have a debate
Posted by Vegas Bengal
Member since Feb 2008
26344 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 5:58 pm to
Earlier I was hoping Rand of House Paul, First of His Name, King of his own Optamology Board and United States Senator, and Protector of the Paulbots would favor the release of the illegally held prisoners in Gitmo. Then He would finally convince me of his bona fides. Guess he's like all the noble bred. A sell-out.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37072 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 6:02 pm to
quote:

when asked if he would keep tabs on the 5 Talibans that were released (which Rand said he wouldn't release, under his Administration) Rand said, in a bumpersticker-worthy moment, that each one of them would have "A drone with his name on it".
Such a tough guy.
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
17680 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 6:04 pm to
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Rand said, in a bumpersticker-worthy moment, that each one of them would have "A drone with his name on it".


War criminals. Not American citizens. What's the problem?
Posted by MJM
Member since Aug 2007
2511 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 6:08 pm to
Well that didn't take him long to sell out to the war machine. Disappointing
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52841 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 6:10 pm to
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in a bumpersticker-worthy moment, that each one of them would have "A drone with his name on it".


Guns don't kill people (thousands of miles away). DRONES kill people (thousands of miles away)


Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
17680 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 8:14 pm to
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Well that didn't take him long to sell out to the war machine. Disappointing


How does that make him a sellout?
Posted by pleading the fifth
Member since Feb 2006
3989 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 10:16 pm to
Paul doesn't oppose drone strikes on foreign combatants (which he said 1000 times during his filibuster). He opposes the targeting of US citizens abroad by drones unless they are an IMMINENT threat to the safety of US interests. The fact that he said they would each have a drone on their head actually fits in with his consistent narrative on this issue.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 7:29 am to
quote:

The fact that he said they would each have a drone on their head actually fits in with his consistent narrative on this issue.



This

Both Pauls have always support strong defense in actual defense of the US.

They are non interventionist and I agree with them.

Frankly I would have very seriously considered nuking Afghanstan after 911 instead of sending troops. The message should have been send us OBL and gang Mr. Taliban or have your last look at Kabul.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125557 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 7:37 am to
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citing a 'cessation' of war activity, as a possibility for doing so (isn't this what is going on?)


No. It's not what is going on. The Taliban said that they "don't believe in the peace process" so this prisoner exchange changed nothing.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 7:44 am to
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Rand said, in a bumpersticker-worthy moment, that each one of them would have "A drone with his name on it".


I don't see anything wrong with killing the enemy. These are NOT citizens we are talking about. These are Taliban warriors that want to destroy America and KILL us.

Why is it shocking to hear a US senator say he would pull the trigger on our enemy?
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