re: Welfare queen farmers want a bailout.

Why?

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I'm not anti-farmer, but doesn't this sound like normal economics? Too much supply = prices being too low, which causes people to go out of business, which limits supply, and increases prices to where it's profitable?

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Of course, but you have to weigh the consequences of allowing that level of volatility in farming. You run risk of too many farmers quitting, leading to food shortages or even famine in extreme circumstances. Then if grain skyrockets, farmers who raise pigs, poultry, cattle and fish will go out of business or have extremely high prices due to feed costs skyrocketing since feed for all of those are mostly composed of corn and soybean meal.

It could easily spiral out of control and more than double grocery prices for Americans

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Because the profound damage they will sustain is caused solely by Republican policies.

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Never go full Roger it makes you look like a retard.

The American farmer has to play in the world market with one hand tied behind his back.

Our farmers have to contend with EPA regulations and restrictions that no one else in the world has to bother with. No one in Brazil cares what is on a pesticide label, they can spray whatever is cheapest, while the American farmer has to spray whatever is labeled for use, often times having to go with exorbitantly more expensive options.

In Louisiana, H2A visa workers make $14.83/hr. That is not counting Workmans comp or the cost of housing them or providing them with transportation ,which is required, so actual costs are probably closer to $17-$18/hr. Our competitive markets(Brazil, Mexico, etc) pay their labor $15/day.

When the American farmer buys new equipment, it has to be equipped with Tier 4 emissions systems, which not only drastically increase the cost of the equipment, but anyone who owns this crap can attest it’s also one of the largest contributors to repair costs. Those sensors fail all the time and will shut the whole tractor down. John Deere/Case etc manufacturer tractors without these systems just to sell in other countries.

The American farmer must pay technology fees on their seed, or risk losing their farm to Big Ag corps when they get sued for everything they own. A farmer cannot hold grain to replant the next year, not in the US. But they can and do all over South and Central America, India, basically everywhere else.

Soybeans right now are about $9.50/bushel. You gotta make 42 bushels per acre to break even on input costs, and that isn’t even counting equipment. The annual average for the entire country is around 47 bushels/acre. Those margins are razor thin, and let’s not forget that 47 averagemeans half the acreage in production makes less.


I’m all for free market, but it isn’t free market when bureaucracy requires the American farmer to jump through every hoop imaginable while the rest of the world just laughs at all our regulatory systems.

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Oh lord, little J-broad got her feelings hurt again
Feelings,

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Youll grow out of it hopefully.

When they hire you for the factory, you gonna do lug nuts or plastic decals?

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When they hire you for the factory, you gonna do lug nuts or plastic decals?

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Rebuidling Utvs for idiots to purchase.

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Rebuidling Utvs

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That requires skill and dirty hands baw. Your nails would get dirt under them.

Assembly line work is more your style.

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If no one is bailing out the average worker whose 401ks have plummeted, why would we bail out these farmers.

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After seeing DOGE expose just what entities like USAID spends money on, I'm fine with doing what is necessary to keep our food prices low, for "the average worker". If the CCP plots to take down our CRITICAL farm production infrastructure like they did with steel, antibiotics, etc., then we should do whatever it takes to keep these CRITICAL mechanisms viable.

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This actually sounds like the perfect market opportunity for imports to cause market disruptions. Do we have tariffs that make it more difficult to import this heavy machinery?

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The foreign machinery is cheaper. Just not as advanced and reliable.

Seed and chemical are killers. You have to use the new technologies seed and chemical companies sell here because it's all there is. You know...patent and trait rights and shite.