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re: We want an end to the funding of Ukraine. Trump wants to go a step further.

Posted on 5/27/25 at 9:44 pm to
Posted by Jack Carter
Member since Sep 2018
12200 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 9:44 pm to
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I could give a rat’s @ss what Putin demands. Yet we don’t need to meet anyone’s demands. The only American citizens benefiting from this conflict in the hinterlands of Eastern Europe is the parasite class in the Potomac Beltway,


Wait, so do you want this war to end or not? If you want it to end, putins demands must be met. If his demands are NOT met the Potomac Beltway parasitic class keeps benefitting.

Sounds like you're on the side of the corrupt DC beaurocrats who are benefitting from this war.

Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24026 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 9:47 pm to
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Wait, so do you want this war to end or not? If you want it to end, putins demands must be met.

That should include walking around on all fours and barking.
Posted by Jack Carter
Member since Sep 2018
12200 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 9:49 pm to
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Putin can stop the war anytime he wants but he won’t negotiate in good faith.


Negotiate in good faith? You remind me of all the news broadcasters repeating the same lines. "Muh ambush!" "Muh threat to our democracy" "muh Republicans pounce" "muh negotiate in good faith"

You mindless bot

Putin doesn't have to negotiate. HE'S WINNING THE WAR YOU IDIOT! If his demands are not met, he will have no choice but to co tinker winning this war.

How fricking retarded are you people?
Posted by ReeseBobby
Comanche TX
Member since Oct 2021
312 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 9:53 pm to
Russia underestimated Ukraine’s resistance and overestimated its own military capacity. The initial invasion aimed to quickly topple the Ukrainian government, but that failed. Now, Russia is locked in a protracted and costly war with unclear end goals.

Russia isn’t winning they are maintaining.

If idiots like you where in charge in 1941 we’d all be speaking German you appeasement cuck
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23405 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 9:54 pm to
The war ends within months of the US pulling financial and military support.

The euros don’t have the will or the means to sustain it.

Can anyone explain the benefits to the average American of supporting Ukraine as it currently stands?

We don’t have a functional mineral rights deal and most of what we want is now behind Russian lines anyways.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
24857 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 9:57 pm to
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Add up all those EU countries


I have a sense of deja vu: maybe I have you mixed up with another poster but I believe we have discussed this in an earlier thread gnome. Whatever the case, the EU has perhaps given more in humanitarian and financial aid than the United States.

Yet the United States is by far the single largest contributor of military aid to the Ukrainian war effort. As of December 31 2024, the U.S. had allocated nearly $120 billion in total aid, while other European nations contributing military aid had contributed less than half that amount.

I can post the charts but I can’t make you understand them. That is up to you.




statista.com
This post was edited on 5/27/25 at 10:31 pm
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Member since May 2020
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Posted on 5/27/25 at 9:59 pm to
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Wait, so do you want this war to end or not? If you want it to end, putins demands must be met. If his demands are NOT met the Potomac Beltway parasitic class keeps benefitting.

Sounds like you're on the side of the corrupt DC beaurocrats who are benefitting from this war.



The war ends as soon as the United States quits propping up the kleptocratic midget.
Posted by Geronimo
Member since May 2023
1096 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 10:02 pm to
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Russia isn’t winning they are maintaining.


Yes they are. It's not pretty but they're absolutely winning, men are a finite resource in Ukraine and that well is just about dry.

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If idiots like you where in charge in 1941 we’d all be speaking German you appeasement cuck


Oh frick off, this isn't Hitler in WW2, this is a regional conflict between countries we shouldn't give a frick about.
This post was edited on 5/27/25 at 10:06 pm
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Member since May 2020
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Posted on 5/27/25 at 10:06 pm to
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If idiots like you where in charge in 1941 we’d all be speaking German you appeasement cuck


Thanks for your input Bill.

How is the yeast infection?



This post was edited on 5/27/25 at 10:10 pm
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
97057 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 10:07 pm to
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The EU has donated far more to Ukraine than the US


This is a straight lie and you know it Why would you even say that? Good grief.

Edit - I’m giving you an out here. Specify exactly which type of funding you are referring to and I’ll delete my comment if you’re right.
This post was edited on 5/27/25 at 10:08 pm
Posted by Jack Carter
Member since Sep 2018
12200 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 10:08 pm to
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Russia underestimated Ukraine’s resistance and overestimated its own military capacity. The initial invasion aimed to quickly topple the Ukrainian government, but that failed. Now, Russia is locked in a protracted and costly war with unclear end goals.



These are tired talking points. Russia is gaining ground fast and the west is panicking. Trump is losing his mind on truth social because he can't even get a ceasefire. European leaders are backtracking on sending troops.

Russia just demonstrated how easily it would be to destroy Kiev and the only thing the western leaders can do is scream at the clouds and post on Truth Social to rally the trash.

Kursk is no longer being held by Ukraine/NATO.

Russia is winning amd winning big. Anyone who still disagrees is mentally ill or grossly ill-informed.

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Russia isn’t winning they are maintaining.


How so? Front lines are collapsing and Russia continues to take ground.

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If idiots like you where in charge in 1941 we’d all be speaking German you appeasement cuck


What a tiresome, mindless response.

Yoire just a walking, talking hashtag dispenser.
This post was edited on 5/27/25 at 10:15 pm
Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 10:11 pm to
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 Jack Carter


You told no Lies. It's nice to see other posters who have a grasp on reality.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
97057 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 10:13 pm to
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Toomer Deplorable


The Google says mucho more

US: 178B for all funding including defense with all but 11B going to defense.

EU: 300B+ including defense. Didn’t specify military or what type of funding.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
24857 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 10:27 pm to
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The Google says mucho more


I’m sure that includes humanitarian and financial aid, which are to the banking & NGO class what military aid is to the MIC. Regardless — and no matter how you slice up the pie — it is a massive grift that is enriching the reigning oligarchs in Brussels and Washington D.C. with the blood of the Ukrainian people.

None of these globalist ghouls give a rat’s about the average Ukrainian citizen. It is Afghanistan 2.0:


This post was edited on 5/28/25 at 5:45 pm
Posted by Jack Carter
Member since Sep 2018
12200 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 11:48 pm to
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Ukraine only has to outlast Putin and with the glacial pace of Russias advances I believe they will


You are a sick evil man. You don't care how many Ukrainians die.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
19988 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 2:29 am to
Well just like eu's commitment to NATO, just like their commitment to global warming.......

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On this basis, the Kiehl Institute has reported that European assistance to Ukraine is far greater than that provided by the US. However, as the Institute itself acknowledged in its 16 February 2024 update, there is a significant gap between European funding that has been committed and funding that has actually been allocated or spentm and that to fully replace US military assistance in 2024, Europe would need to double its current level of arms assistance.
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