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We need an official definition of = "protest"? This LA stuff is not 'freedom of speech!

Posted on 6/11/25 at 6:05 am
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
46351 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 6:05 am
Freedom of speech gives you the right to say anything you want - It does NOT give you the right to an audience.

Freedom of speech assumes you have a idea that you want to discuss with an opposing viewpoint == yielding an exchange of logical statements, pertinent data, reasonable aspirations, perceived grievances, workable solutions, etc.

It does NOT give anyone the freedom to even inconvenience someone else = and surely does not give you the freedom to intimidate anyone.

It does NOT give anyone the free access to another's 'space' in order to inhibit their legitimate actions.

It does NOT give anyone the freedom to destroy or deface public - or private - property.

etc. etc. etc.

We have accepted this perversion of "Freedom of Speech" for far too long. It has now become a weapon to be used against TRUE liberty-loving citizens.

Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
18775 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 6:10 am to
We have a word for what's going down in LA, it's called rioting.
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
3015 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 6:11 am to
They know all this already. It’s an attempt to gaslight the average person for political purposes.
Posted by 615tider
sidewalk in TN
Member since Oct 2012
3626 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 6:19 am to
More word games.

I'm not an illegal alien, I'm undocumented.

I'm not a pedophile, I'm a minor attracted person.

When they attack the definitions of certain words they are attempting to create as many loopholes as possible for future usage. They know the difference, they're just trying to see if they can get more people to question these words to create chaos.
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
9026 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 6:20 am to
Freedom of Assembly is what should be under consideration, but your points still stand.
Posted by redneck hippie
Stillwater
Member since Dec 2008
6076 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 6:28 am to
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etc. It does NOT give anyone the freedom to even inconvenience someone else = and surely does not give you the freedom to intimidate anyone.

It does NOT give anyone the free access to another's 'space' in order to inhibit their legitimate actions.

It does NOT give anyone the freedom to destroy or deface public - or private - property.


Just playing devil’s advocate- but couldn’t this describe January 6th people too? You probably agree, but just wanted to put that out
Posted by GruntbyAssociation
Member since Jul 2013
7212 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 6:30 am to
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They know all this already. It’s an attempt to gaslight the average person for political purposes


When you understand communism it all makes sense. These people are evil.
This post was edited on 6/11/25 at 7:05 am
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
46351 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 6:47 am to
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Just playing devil’s advocate- but couldn’t this describe January 6th people too? You probably agree, but just wanted to put that out

yes - it wold apply to everyone

J6 was a planned disruption of an advertised LEGAL public gathering of people who wanted to SUPPORT the anticipated CHALLENGE to certain electors in the upcoming congressional certification of the election results.

There was NO planned (other than by the same instigators of these LA and prior MN riots)

There WERE criminal agents in the crowd - and there WAS a conspiracy to hijack the gathering and INDUCE 99.99% of that crowd to unwittingly 'break a law' by entering the capitol building. The most they could have been charged with was 'trespass'
NONE of them wanted to "obstruct congress" - what they WANTED was a true examination of the electoral process = which was the constitutional intent of the J6 congressional gathering.

What happened was planned by agents who were NOT associated with the announced purpose of the crowd. In fact, the "insurrection" inference was the exact OPPOSITE of what the crown wanted.

Pelosi and her cohorts were the planners of this abomination - and the corrupt DOJ assisted her.
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
18775 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 7:10 am to
quote:

When they attack the definitions of certain words they are attempting to create as many loopholes as possible for future usage. They know the difference, they're just trying to see if they can get more people to question these words to create chaos.



Agreed. This is why we need to stop using the fake labels to desribe Dems and the MSM.
Today's Democrat party are literally Marxist whose ideology is to destroy America's identity and the foundation of what make us great.
Dems should be referred to as Marxist.

Same with the Main Stream Media. They aren't media and certainly not news journalists, they are the Marxist propaganda machine.
Posted by WaltWhite504
Member since Sep 2021
1974 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 7:16 am to
January 6 was a protest? or freedom of speech?
This post was edited on 6/11/25 at 7:16 am
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
17717 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 7:18 am to
Those who committed acts of violence on j6 were arrested and had the book thrown at them. Even those who didn't commit violence and didn't go inside the capital building were tracked down and arrested.

Imo, the main issue is that most of the ones committing violence and destroying shite... aren't being arrested in Los Angeles.

The two tiered system is brutal to watch. Where if you riot for a right wing agenda, the book is thrown at you and your life is ruined. But if you riot for a left wing agenda, most who get arrested, and most of the actual rioters won't even be arrested mind you, will only be given a slap on the wrist and immediately released.
Posted by Sailjuggernaut
Member since Jan 2024
136 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 7:30 am to
Well said Bandit!
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
18775 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 7:33 am to
quote:

January 6 was a protest? or freedom of speech?


Isn't peaceful protest a function of freedom of speech?
Posted by WaltWhite504
Member since Sep 2021
1974 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 7:34 am to
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Those who committed acts of violence on j6 were arrested


Only 14 people were arrested during the actual incident on Jan 6 for extreme acts of violence or destruction. They received presidential pardons. Most were arrested months later - after an investigation.

As of yesterday 160, people have been arrested by LAPD in connection with ongoing protests. Many more arrests are likely.




This post was edited on 6/11/25 at 7:35 am
Posted by AubieinNC2009
Mountain NC
Member since Dec 2018
6433 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 7:37 am to
when you start destroying property you move from Protest to crimes and riots.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
46351 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 7:47 am to
quote:

January 6 was a protest? or freedom of speech?

J6 was planned as a show of support for examining the correctness of the electoral college results presented to congress.

It was NOT an intent to OBSTRUCT congressional action - it was an intent to ENCOURAGE thorough congress action.

The only people who wanted the "certification of the election" to be taken care of quickly and quietly were the democrats who wanted to get past this last threshold before there as any chance to examine the FRAUD evident in the election. They wanted to SKIP the debate on the merits of the electoral votes presented and go IMMEDIATELY into the certification of the results.

They had TWO initiatives to do that:

First - Implant agents into the crowd that was going to assemble showing its support of the legitimate challenges to the electoral results being presented. Those agents would provide centers of 'protest' and encourage locations of 'trespass.' Agents in the protective perimeter would fire 'crowd dispersion' munitions into the crowd to promote agitation. Capitol police would initially allow unchallenged admission into the building to influence more to follow. Agents within the crowd would continue causing 'incidents' to be filmed.

second - should the above 'insurrection' not be sufficiently "obstructive" to warrant declaring an 'emergency' proceedings, then the "pipe bombs" would be "discovered' just in time to then declare the emergency.

In no way was Pelosi going to allow congress to actually have any process to debate the acceptance of the electoral results.

as a reminder - there has not been a certification process in my memory where a GOP won the electoral college WITHOUT democrats rising to CHALLENGE the electoral results.

But THIS time it was ESSENTIAL to the DEMOCRAT agenda to STOP that long established 'challenge to the electoral results.'

It was a fraud - and they succeeded in not only stealing a presidential election but to IMPRISON scores of honest patriotic citizens who were unwittingly entrapped by their scheme - yet their OWN AGENTS who were identified initiating the 'insurrection' were never arrested or given the same treatment.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
54879 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 7:56 am to
Groomers are going to cling to Jan 6 from here to eternity in order to justify decades of violence and death.

Then you have the groomer whining about pardons, after the people had already served a lengthy sentence, something NO BLM or Antifa rioter has had to face yet. Team Blue has the judges to allow their ilk to get off scott free, while Kamala Harris and company organize to pay for their bail. Team red has their "riot" quelled within hours, then years are spent hunting down anyone associated with them and jailing everyone for years, often without trial.

They still get their way and complain that their opposition isn't jailed long enough
Posted by WaltWhite504
Member since Sep 2021
1974 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 8:21 am to
You think the FBI implanting agents and explosives is unique to Jan 6?

It has been FBI 101 since Hoover and i promise Patel is running the same script in LA.

Example - Brandon Darby worked as an FBI undercover in New Orleans left wing circles and later operated in the left wing protests at the 2008 GOP Convention. He organized a group of left wing students to make explosives - setting them up for the FBI to arrest them and call the left violent.

Darby became a hero to people like Andrew Breitbart and Steve Bannon - who gave him a platform. The right wing had no problem with the use of those tactics towards the left, but they cried like babies on Jan 6.

LINK
Posted by WaltWhite504
Member since Sep 2021
1974 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 8:24 am to
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groomer


I have a legit source that claims President Piss Bag is the groomer.

That term didnt age well
This post was edited on 6/11/25 at 8:25 am
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