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re: We have nothing in common.
Posted on 9/25/19 at 8:48 am to Cheese Grits
Posted on 9/25/19 at 8:48 am to Cheese Grits
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Let him live in Argentina a few years and he will get over that real quick.
I know, right? The crazy thing is he's a HISTORY TEACHER! He should know better.
They also try to raise their children vegetarian. Last year their son discovered bacon and loved it and now wants to eat bacon. They just about lost it on Facebook, but they at least bought the kid bacon so he could cook it himself. It's like staring into a different reality.
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Posted on 9/25/19 at 8:51 am to wmr
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We have nothing in common.
What about “Breakfast at Tiffany’s”?
Posted on 9/25/19 at 8:58 am to wmr
The left will get nothing and like it
Posted on 9/25/19 at 9:05 am to wmr
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The left and the right in this country hate each other. We have nothing in common. This is a miserable state of affairs. It is beyond time to divide up and move on.
We have everything in common; a desire for peace and prosperity at the fore. And the coming High Tech revolution can offer unimagined freedoms in that regard; but only if we can jump the hurdle of altering our traditional, Merit-based economic System to deal with the MASSIVE job loss that will result from High Tech efficiency.
The issue is Morality-based. The Left believes that it is economic desperation on the part of the weaker (less, economically valuable) citizenry that is the basis for much of their problematic behavior (drugs, crime, civic irresponsibility, social dysfunction, etc.). They view Capitalism (personal freedom, Merit-based, God given Rights) as "Darwinian Economics". That is why they are attracted to Marxist (Egalitarian) Ideology.
The Right believes that like God's 'judgment'...Individuals should be rewarded according to "their works"; and that Individuals should not have their personal works lumped in with that of a 'Hitler' or 'Manson'. They believe that if on person exerts extraordinary effort toward prosperity, then one's reward should be extraordinary. And if one exerts negative effort...one should be punished by negative rewards and consequences.
There is a "common ground" that can be implemented, to address these seemingly polar moral-based beliefs. If honest and moral 'Government' can confiscate the honest and positive fruits of extraordinary labors from one individual (I.e., their Freedom)...then said Just Government must confiscate/take away the Freedom of individuals who do irresponsible harm to themselves and society at large.
Qualified subsidization. Based on the Weaker Brethren's promise and verified actions toward improving their self, and holding up their side of the implied Social Contract toward those responsible citizens whose labors they claim a moral right to.
If we can't not agree on that...then read the history books. The sympathies expressed by many in this Thread is where it will go. 'Darwinian Economics'. The weak will die off in large numbers, along with a lot of moral - but relatively weak because of Systematic collapse - people.
I pray that wisdom prevails over "divide up"; because I know what that means. I fear standing in my back yard with a shovel. It's hard enough burying my dog...much less my beautiful 5 yr. old Great Granddaughter.
Posted on 9/25/19 at 9:09 am to memphisplaya
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You can't just silence the press. As much as we push protecting our rights, "journalists" and I use that term very loosely, have rights as well. As they should and they should be protected.
They should also be journalists. They are very few and far between these days. 95 out of 100 are nothing but propagandists for the socialist democrat party. Why should they be protected?
Posted on 9/25/19 at 10:06 am to Janky
quote:quote:No
Is it not a bad look to lock people up and separate families at the border?
Play stupid games, right?
Posted on 9/25/19 at 10:17 am to Scruffy
quote:Because punishment is the only thing these animals respond to, right?
A stance, which IMO, will exacerbate the current crisis by increasing border crossings by removing a punishment.
quote:I don't know what speech or debate you're getting this from, but her actual outlined immigration plan clearly references a path to citizenship.
No.
There was no reference to a “path for citizenship”.
It was merely a reference to allowing foreign born individuals the ability to obtain taxpayer funded insurance into adulthood.
quote:There is a whole lot of space between locking people up and separating families, and "open borders". But according to the right, if we're not locking people up then our borders are open. The right is creating this false dichotomy and fighting this open borders strawman.
You are right though, it is not by definition open borders, but as I said, it is getting very close.
Posted on 9/25/19 at 10:19 am to Korkstand
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Play stupid games, right?
Something like that.
Posted on 9/25/19 at 10:24 am to The Funnie Five
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He was in town for Comic Con and literally refused to meet up with me. I don't give a shite that he is a bleeding heart liberal, he is family. But I guess he doesn't feel the same way and puts politics above family.
sounds like a petty child who doesn't understand how the world works yet.
young/dumb and naive.
fits a TON of liberals now.
Posted on 9/25/19 at 10:25 am to Madking
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Only every single Democrat presidential candidate and every democrat policy maker.
Well maybe he hasn't met those people.
There is a difference between moderate liberals in everyday society and the liberal media. Just like not everyone on the right is hard core Christian.
Posted on 9/25/19 at 10:28 am to JackieTreehorn
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it all starts on the college re-education campuses
it starts well before then
Posted on 9/25/19 at 10:31 am to The Boat
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Funny how it’s always libs who end friendships and family bonds over politics.
Social justice is their faith. Deviation from said belief system is apostasy. Replace sinner with racist, sexist, homophobe, etc. They're no different than people in cults who cut off contact with the outside world.
Posted on 9/25/19 at 10:59 am to The Funnie Five
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He was in town for Comic Con and literally refused to meet up with me. I don't give a shite that he is a bleeding heart liberal, he is family. But I guess he doesn't feel the same way and puts politics above family.
This is typical of the left.
Leave him alone. I know he is family, but these people are trained to put destroying the country ahead of everything.
I can promise you, even though you are family, this Filth would have terrible things done to you if he could. This is what you are dealing with and you need to understand that.
Posted on 9/25/19 at 11:05 am to EZE Tiger Fan
quote:No it's not.
This is typical of the left.
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Leave him alone. I know he is family, but these people are trained to put destroying the country ahead of everything.
Man, some of you guys are just ridiculous. quote:And now you go even more over the top.
I can promise you, even though you are family, this Filth would have terrible things done to you if he could. This is what you are dealing with and you need to understand that.
How have you been convinced that fully half the population hates America and wishes ill on their own fricking family? You are batshit insane!
Posted on 9/25/19 at 11:15 am to wmr
Sure we do.
Air.
Water.
Food.
Housing.
Medical.
Air.
Water.
Food.
Housing.
Medical.
Posted on 9/25/19 at 11:18 am to Korkstand
quote:Who said immigration is comparable to rape?
Oh come on. This is in no way, shape, or form comparable to rape.
Are all of you libs 100% incapable of comprehending examples?
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"I don't support rape but I don't think it should be illegal and I don't want any preventative measures taken and if someone does rape I want them protected in my city and will do my best to prevent the cops from arresting them......... But like I said......... I don't support rape."
"I don't support open borders but, I don't think illegal immigration should be illegals and I don't want them prevented from coming and, if they do come, I want them protected from being caught and will do my best to keep the cops from finding them..........but, like I said........I don't support open borders"
Posted on 9/25/19 at 11:19 am to Korkstand
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How have you been convinced that fully half the population hates America and wishes ill on their own fricking family? You are batshit insane!
Not fully half of the population, but certainly fully half of the 65 million or so that voted for Hillary, without a doubt. You'll never convince me that anyone that voted for her gives a rats arse about this country, it's founding documents and principles, or the people in it that oppose their socialist/communist agenda.
Posted on 9/25/19 at 11:34 am to ShortyRob
quote:You did, by comparing it to rape.
Who said immigration is comparable to rape?
quote:I comprehend just fine.
Are all of you libs 100% incapable of comprehending examples?
quote:
"I don't support rape but I don't think it should be illegal and I don't want any preventative measures taken and if someone does rape I want them protected in my city and will do my best to prevent the cops from arresting them......... But like I said......... I don't support rape."
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"I don't support open borders but, I don't think illegal immigration should be illegals and I don't want them prevented from coming and, if they do come, I want them protected from being caught and will do my best to keep the cops from finding them..........but, like I said........I don't support open borders"
If you claim they aren't comparable, or that you aren't comparing them, what do you call it when you say the same exact thing but swap out one word?
Regardless, you, like everyone else here, are projecting a far left stance on fully half the country. Very few people want open borders. You just refuse to acknowledge that there is a multitude of options between locking people up and separating families, and fully open borders.
Posted on 9/25/19 at 11:35 am to Korkstand
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Do you honestly not realize that you're describing a small minority?
Then you cats should shut them up - because they're purporting to speak for most/all of you.
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The vast majority of the left loves America, loves capitalism, loves and respects LEOs, etc etc.
I just don't see those people in the public square.
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The left and right have way more in common that most here want to believe.
I used to believe that. In the post-Obama era, I'm not so sure.
Posted on 9/25/19 at 11:42 am to Korkstand
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If you claim they aren't comparable, or that you aren't comparing them, what do you call it when you say the same exact thing but swap out one word?
Ever hear of a metaphor? It's not a comparison, it's a metaphor pointing out the ridiculousness of your assertion. Are you dense?
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Very few people want open borders.
That's the first correct statement I've been able to identify from you. Unfortunately for you, those that do want open borders consists primarily of a large percentage of the socialist democrat party. Do you even California, bro? If so many socialist democrats favor civil penalties as opposed to criminal charges, please list for us the civil penalties California has handed down to the millions of illegal aliens there.
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