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re: We have "Conservatives" that are actually closer to anarchist...

Posted on 9/30/25 at 2:07 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/30/25 at 2:07 pm to
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So why do you want more socialization?


I dont, you apparently do
Posted by BarnHater
Member since May 2015
7467 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 2:08 pm to
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The GOP did not remove the ACA and they never will



All thanks to dyin’ McCain. What a traitor to America.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293053 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 2:08 pm to
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It does. In this case, they are drawing a line to protect the US citizen from unfair practices.


Every progressive program ever was done under the name of "helping US citizens."

Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55356 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 2:10 pm to
You need history lessons. Alot of them. You are going back to America has always been a socialist nation.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293053 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 2:11 pm to
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You need history lessons


You need basic civics and economics, Progressive dude.
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
4660 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 2:15 pm to
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We do want limited gov, but it has a legit role


Yes, common currency, national defense and foreign policy. That's about frickin it.

You simply cannot call yourself a conservative IN ANY SHAPE, FORM OR FASHION by using the government to affect change because everything will be "different" this time because "our guy" is in charge.

Hi, I am from the government, and this time, I am really here to help.

Posted by BarnHater
Member since May 2015
7467 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 2:16 pm to
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Hi, I am from the government, and this time, I am really here to help.


The difference is Trump isn’t your everyday politician. He actually knows what blue-collared Americans are going through and he’s here to give them a fair shot.
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
14188 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 2:25 pm to
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He actually knows what blue-collared Americans are going through and he’s here to give them a fair shot


SMH
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293053 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 2:26 pm to
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He actually knows what blue-collared Americans are going through and he’s here to give them a fair shot.


Jesus christ, he's robbing you people blind.

Who do you think his trade war hurts????
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3351 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 2:28 pm to
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ideological purity tests.

It's fascinating to me that if a person has one liberal belief, he's a Liberal. But if a person has one conservative belief, he's NOT a Conservative.

Posted by BrownLeft Shoe
Berwick, LA
Member since Feb 2018
89 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 2:29 pm to
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Yes, common currency, national defense and foreign policy. That's about frickin it.
And a Judicial system to enforce contracts and the rule of law, manages large infrastructure projects (please correct me if there has ever been a super infrastructure project that did not have government involvement in human history). Oh and of course collect taxes because the government can't do any of that without money.
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
14188 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 2:31 pm to
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But if a person has one conservative belief, he's NOT a Conservative.


The issue with populists is they are fiscally progressive
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293053 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 2:32 pm to
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The issue with populists is they are fiscally progressive


Absolutely
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6250 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 2:34 pm to
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Yes, common currency, national defense and foreign policy. That's about frickin it.


All except for that thing called the US Constitution.

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The Preamble We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.


That in and of itself is more than you suggested is it.

Article I Section 2 and Sec 8 talks about taxes. Sec 8 states:

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The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States


Since the constitution states that these are the guidelines, congress shall act to protect those. Therefore they create laws to hold to account.

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You simply cannot call yourself a conservative IN ANY SHAPE, FORM OR FASHION by using the government to affect change


Well that BS. Truth is you are more of a libertarian than conservative. There is a massive difference.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293053 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 2:36 pm to
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Well that BS. Truth is you are more of a libertarian than conservative.


Conservatives and Libertarians used to believe close to the same thing regarding economics.

Of course you dont know that, youre pushing Democrat policies.

Posted by rmc
Truth or Consequences
Member since Sep 2004
27237 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 2:36 pm to
Capitalism in its purest form is Anarchy.
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6250 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 2:37 pm to
correct.
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6250 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 2:38 pm to
Not conservative populists. That's false.
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6250 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 2:42 pm to
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Conservatives and Libertarians used to believe close to the same thing regarding economics.


No sir. They have not. History 100% shows you wrong. Tariffs are one of those things that conservatives have always been pro. It was not until Libertarian influences did that somewhat change.

The issue with libertarians is that their world view is like communism. On paper, it's awesome. In execution, it's a disaster.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293053 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 2:43 pm to
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No sir. They have not.


My god, youre a caricature...
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