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re: Washington Redskins expected to retire nickname on Monday: report

Posted on 7/13/20 at 12:25 am to
Posted by Tunasntigers92
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Posted on 7/13/20 at 12:25 am to
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a significant portion of the population believes the name is offensive


This is unequivocally false.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70547 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 12:26 am to
All 3 are. One is 100% false the other two are incomplete and misleading.
This post was edited on 7/13/20 at 12:27 am
Posted by Tunasntigers92
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Posted on 7/13/20 at 12:26 am to
I'd love to know his Marxist Maoist sources
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 7/13/20 at 12:27 am to
Wtop news in the DC area. Check it out, it’s a laugh riot. They’re big on freeing prisoners with Covid because somehow it’s ok for them to infect law abiding citizens but not to infect each other.
This post was edited on 7/13/20 at 12:29 am
Posted by Steadmans Cheddar
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 7/13/20 at 12:28 am to
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You did it with a left wing newspaper article. I can link their national headlines from today and show how dishonest they are.


That’s a lazy smear attack without suggesting any actual flaw in their findings. I pointed out a flaw in the original polling, and gave an actual example of how self-identification can lead to flawed results.
Posted by Redleg Guy
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/13/20 at 12:29 am to
Free market doing work. Plus, Washington will have all this new merchandise to sell to fans who already own their stuff.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 7/13/20 at 12:29 am to
Poll question: How many people in here bitching about changing the name are the same ones who swear they aren't watching another game?
Posted by Tunasntigers92
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Posted on 7/13/20 at 12:30 am to
I want you to provide a source for the claim you made.
Posted by Tunasntigers92
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Posted on 7/13/20 at 12:31 am to
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Free market doing work

That's not what this is, at all.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 7/13/20 at 12:32 am to
And I’m not attacking the premise or idea that their could be false identifying people in that poll. But A-you can’t provide any specifics on that data and B- you compared a possible smear and pure speculation to a fact. What you did was hide behind a news story that smeared people for political reasons. Cmon man at best it’s an extremely lazy shortcut and that’s at best.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 7/13/20 at 12:32 am to
And?
Posted by Steadmans Cheddar
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 7/13/20 at 12:34 am to
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I want you to provide a source for the claim you made.


I linked the poll earlier stating that over 50% of Native Americans find the name offensive.

You can easily find articles bout FedEx pulling their sponsorship. LINK
Other articles exist about co-owners wanting a name change. LINK
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 7/13/20 at 12:34 am to
My buddy is a huge Skins fan, since the posse/ Rypien days. He said he’s done with them once they change the name. He said his fan hood dies along with the name. Guess it makes it easier since they have sucked so bad for years. He knows how I felt during the 90s being a saints fan.

Wonder how many more are gonna be like him
This post was edited on 7/13/20 at 12:38 am
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 7/13/20 at 12:35 am to
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Plus, Washington will have all this new merchandise to sell to fans who already own their stuff.


Sure. Assuming you keep all of those fans.
Posted by Tunasntigers92
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Posted on 7/13/20 at 12:36 am to
There is nothing in either of those erroneous articles about natives calling for a name change.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 7/13/20 at 12:36 am to
Snyder should move the team
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 7/13/20 at 12:37 am to
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And?


And if you're not watching the NFL why do you give a shite what the Washington franchise is called?
Posted by Redleg Guy
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/13/20 at 12:39 am to
So there are people who are still NFL fans but THIS is what made them quit? Like, how did they make it to this point, that the Skins changing their name is what finally did them in.

Would they still be watching if they all took a knee during the National Anthem but were still wearing Redskins uniforms?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 7/13/20 at 12:40 am to
Seriously? You don’t see any other applications for what’s going on here? It’s only happening in every walk of life across the country everyday.
This post was edited on 7/13/20 at 12:41 am
Posted by Steadmans Cheddar
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 7/13/20 at 12:40 am to
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But A-you can’t provide any specifics on that data and B- you compared a possible smear and pure speculation to a fact.


More evidence that when you confirm the identity of the respondents, you find a higher percentage of respondents who find it offensive:

The problem of self-identification has been addressed by Native American scholars. An alternative method to standard opinion polls was used by the Center for Indigenous Peoples Studies at California State University, San Bernardino. A survey was conducted of 400 individuals, with 98 individuals positively identified as Native Americans, finding that 67% agreed with the statement that "Redskins" is racial or racist. The response from non-natives was almost the opposite, with 68% responding that the name is not racist.
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