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Was the deep seek release planned and coordinated
Posted on 1/27/25 at 11:38 am
Posted on 1/27/25 at 11:38 am
To hurt trumps momentum
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Posted on 1/27/25 at 11:43 am to LChama
Explain
Deep seek release
Please
Deep seek release
Please
Posted on 1/27/25 at 11:44 am to LChama
How does this hurt trump?
Seems it would strengthen his position that Chyna is a bigger problem than muh Russia
Seems it would strengthen his position that Chyna is a bigger problem than muh Russia
Posted on 1/27/25 at 11:45 am to Viator106
Deepseek is China's answer to OpenAI and all other American based AI platforms, the only difference, China produced it for only $5.5 million, while Open AI and others spent billions on theirs. They also released it as open source so anyone can make use of the source code.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 11:45 am to LChama
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To hurt trumps momentum
Nah, I don't think so.. If it wasn't an open source platform, maybe I'd have a different answer, but this was just someone that wanted to get some headlines, and therefore add some weight behind their name.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 11:46 am to Cosmo
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How does this hurt trump?
Stock market momentum..ai enthusiasm
Posted on 1/27/25 at 11:52 am to SaintsReportExile
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China produced it for only $5.5 million, while Open AI and others spent billions on theirs.
The $5.5M is what they paid their spies to steal every strand of code from ChatGPT and Grok.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 11:57 am to LChama
If you are working on something like this, you're incentivized to get it out ASAP in case rival teams are working on something similar. Now that it's out, people are already working on derivative and specialized versions.
The censorship exists within the model - even if you self host, it still gives censored responses. But it's a matter of time until someone adjusts the weights and publishes a non-censored version.
Just an aside - check this testing video out - LINK
The censorship exists within the model - even if you self host, it still gives censored responses. But it's a matter of time until someone adjusts the weights and publishes a non-censored version.
Just an aside - check this testing video out - LINK
Posted on 1/27/25 at 12:04 pm to SaintsReportExile
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Deepseek is China's answer to OpenAI and all other American based AI platforms, the only difference, China produced it for only $5.5 million, while Open AI and others spent billions on theirs. They also released it as open source so anyone can make use of the source code.
They are also claiming that its work is on part with ChatGPT while only using 1/5th of the computing power. Completely throws a wrench in Nvidia's momentum and all of the investment that Trump has been planning in the space.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 12:07 pm to Jack Ruby
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The $5.5M is what they paid their spies to steal every strand of code from ChatGPT and Grok.
If deepseek is doing what is advertised then they didn't steal anything from the lazy american coders. This is one situation where lazy fits. American coders have become trash over the last decade. Cant optimize for shite and just want more horsepower to get things done.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 12:31 pm to notsince98
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This is one situation where lazy fits. American coders have become trash over the last decade. Cant optimize for shite and just want more horsepower to get things done
Might want to chip in the part where Bidens entire term they were hell bent on the U.S. govt basically absorbing the AI industry, slowing it’s development, and making sure it reflected the values of left wing kooks
Posted on 1/27/25 at 12:35 pm to LChama
Posted on 1/27/25 at 12:41 pm to SaintsReportExile
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China produced it for only $5.5 million
It cost them more than that. Lots more. Almost a thousand times more.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 12:45 pm to SaintsReportExile
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China produced it for only $5.5 million,
This is a lie, can we quit spewing it.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 12:52 pm to notsince98
quote:DeepSeek is built on open source platform stepping stones. Now those existing platforms will build on DeepSeek. I'm quite surprised China allowed it to be release as open source. No one is a loser here.
If deepseek is doing what is advertised then they didn't steal anything from the lazy american coders.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 12:54 pm to NC_Tigah
Ask it anything about Tiananmen Square
Posted on 1/27/25 at 12:55 pm to LChama
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To hurt trumps momentum
Yeah but it's probably bullshite. $5m my arse. They have more chips than they are letting on.
This post was edited on 1/27/25 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 1/27/25 at 1:11 pm to SaintsReportExile
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They also released it as open source so anyone can make use of the source code.
It’s a Trap!
Posted on 1/27/25 at 1:49 pm to Deacon
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ust an aside - check this testing video out - LINK
Not gonna lie, if this is a legit video and not scripted, DeepSeek R1 is extremely impressive.. I watched the whole video and was simply blown away at the thought process put into each question.
But since these specific questions were known problems for some of the other models, I do wonder if the model was built addressing these specific questions, if that makes sense.
We all know that a computer can hold XXXXX amounts of knowledge and memory, depending on the size, etc.. but can it truly put thought into answering questions based on the variables presented and/or variables that it stumbles upon during the thought process..
If the answer to that question is yes.. even if it is in the infancy stages.. that is truly groundbreaking and going to completely change everything..
It's a 15 minute video and well worth the time to anyone looking to understand why this news is breaking the internet right now.. I'll post the link again to make it easier.
Link: Youtube - A deeper look into DeepSeek
Posted on 1/27/25 at 3:22 pm to RohanGonzales
quote:Yep or is Xi an autocrat, Nazi, etc .... "Sorry, that's beyond my current scope. Let’s talk about something else."
Ask it anything about Tiananmen Square
There are some surprises though
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On conclusion of the 1949 Civil War, the Republic of China retreated to it's residual lands in Formosa (Taiwan), while Communist China took over all other areas? But doesn't that make the mainland the break away republic and Taiwan the original China?
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The historical context you're referring to is complex and involves significant political and ideological shifts. Here's a more nuanced explanation:
Chinese Civil War: The Chinese Civil War (1927-1949) was fought between the Kuomintang (KMT)-led government of the Republic of China (ROC) and the Communist Party of China (CPC). The conflict was temporarily paused during World War II to resist Japanese invasion but resumed afterward.
1949 Outcome: By 1949, the CPC had gained control of most of mainland China, leading to the establishment of the People's Republic of China (PRC) on October 1, 1949. The KMT-led ROC government retreated to Taiwan (then commonly referred to as Formosa) and continued to govern there.
Political Claims: Both the PRC and the ROC have historically claimed to be the legitimate government of all China. The PRC views Taiwan as a breakaway province that must eventually be reunified with the mainland, while the ROC (based in Taiwan) initially claimed sovereignty over all of China but has since evolved in its stance, with many in Taiwan now supporting some form of separate identity or independence.
International Recognition: Over time, the international community has largely shifted its recognition from the ROC to the PRC. In 1971, the United Nations General Assembly passed Resolution 2758, recognizing the PRC as the legitimate representative of China and expelling the ROC. Most countries now recognize the PRC as the legitimate government of China, though some maintain unofficial relations with Taiwan.
Current Status: Today, Taiwan operates as a separate political entity with its own government, military, and constitution. However, its international status is contentious, with the PRC insisting on the "One China" principle, which asserts that there is only one China and Taiwan is part of it.
In summary, while the ROC government originally governed all of China, the outcome of the civil war led to the establishment of the PRC on the mainland and the continuation of the ROC on Taiwan. The situation remains unresolved, with differing perspectives on the legitimacy and sovereignty of each entity.
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