re: Was the Civil War Fought Because of Slavery? It Depends on Which Side You View

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Don't pretend to act shocked.

Your entire Marxist party wants this.

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This digression is a perfect example to use of how people will say stupid shite they're told to say and believe stupid shite they're told to believe, in the most irrational, yet sincere way.

This is a great example to extrapolate to the "individual Southerner" examples that keep popping up ITT.

The Civil War was fought over one indisputable reason - States rights

Slavery was a worldwide issue. Yet only the US, under good ole Abe went to war with itself to solve the issue. You have to ask yourself why every other nation on the Earth (who all benefited from slave labor) was able to settle the issue without killing 600,000 men, women, and children?

Its because the war was never about slavery. The North adopted the issue years into the struggle, but it didnt start out that way. The South wanted to peacefully leave the Union, only 80 years after its formation. But Abe would never allow that

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As to the policy I "seem to be pursuing," as you say, I have not meant to leave any one in doubt.

I would save the Union. I would save it the shortest way under the Constitution. The sooner the national authority can be restored the nearer the Union will be "the Union as it was." If there be those who would not save the Union unless they could at the same time save Slavery, I do not agree with them. If there be those who would not save the Union unless they could at the same time destroy Slavery, I do not agree with them. My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or destroy Slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave, I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves, I would do it,

Yours,

A. LINCOLN

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600K people dead. Entire American bloodlines wiped out. Over one mans zeal in protecting imaginary lines on a map

And to make it worse, we have devolved into a nation that half its citizens vote to now ignore those same lines, in regards to foreign peoples

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The Civil War was fought over one indisputable reason - States rights

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What was the key issue driving this promotion/defense of state's rights leading up to the Civil War? Slavery.

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You have to ask yourself why every other nation on the Earth (who all benefited from slave labor) was able to settle the issue without killing 600,000 men, women, and children?

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How many other countries had a part of the country try to break away to protect their right to engage in slavery?

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If the north fought to free slaves, why wouldn’t they free their own slaves until the ratification of the 13th?

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We have a winner folks.

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How many other countries had a part of the country try to break away to protect their right to engage in slavery?

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Facts, actual facts, have shown slavery was only 1 issue not the only issue. Remember only about 2% of the white population owned slaves. The south was being taxed unfairly for industrial goods manufactured in the north. There were actually numerous reasons for the war. Stating that slavery was the only reaso is doing a injustice to everyone that fought in the war.

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imaginary lines on a map

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When you see our flag, your first thought is imaginary lines on a map represented by stars?

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How does seceding instigate a war?

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Have you not heard of the Civil War?

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Scandinavian nations have broken up and gotten back together many times without war

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I imagine that's the minority example.

When parts of countries try to break away it is typically bloody.

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slavery was only 1 issue not the only issue.

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Only one issue, yes, but it was the super predominate issue.

Like I said earlier, the other issues were so small that without the conflict around slavery for the decades leading up to the Civil War, it's unlikely secession ever occurs. Without secession there is no Civil War.

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Stating that slavery was the only reaso is doing a injustice to everyone that fought in the war.

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Who has said it was the literal only reason?

SlowFlowPro you really need to read the issues of this country and that many states want to leave the union for years and none over slavery it is different issues and it is mostly northern states wanting to leave the Union.

And not one word is written about them not having the right to leave the Union.

We are taught is school by the history books bought by the schools' system.

These history books simplify many issues, like the civil war., World War I etc.

You do not have the time to teach the civil war in 9 months of school.

You have to cover the whole history of the US from the late 1500's until today leaving you 1 week or 2 at max to teach the history of the civil war.

In the 1970 we spend 1 week on the war.

Your getting a very simplified version of the war and making broad statements with little knowledge of the time or men.

Yet both sides owned slaver.