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re: War On Drugs: Let's get a better understanding/conclusion. Part 1: Supply Side

Posted on 4/19/17 at 8:32 pm to
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36439 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 8:32 pm to
quote:

I will get to that in the demand thread.


You should just go ahead and hit the demand thread.

That's where the real meat is for most of us Americans.
Posted by MButterfly
Quantico
Member since Oct 2015
6860 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 8:36 pm to
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Just so I'm clear, you want to replace training time with border duty and school patrol?


Correct. They can take their classes on site. Train on site while rotating shifts.


quote:

When will they actually train?


On those sites. Drill weekends can include physical training, advanced training, and work, for their military job or Military Occupational Specialty (MOS).

All of that can be completed.
Posted by MButterfly
Quantico
Member since Oct 2015
6860 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 8:38 pm to
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You should just go ahead and hit the demand thread.

That's where the real meat is for most of us Americans.


It's clear that there are a few willing to talk about the actual issue on the supply side. As stated here in this thread, some just want their drugs for personal reasons.

That's what the US is up against.

But yes, it's time for the demand side.

Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37525 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 8:41 pm to
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On those sites. Drill weekends can include physical training, advanced training, and work, for their military job or Military Occupational Specialty (MOS).

All of that can be completed.


And they're going to travel from their home state, assume operational control, conduct training and qualifications, patrol the border, and return home over a weekend?
Posted by saintsfan1977
Arkansas, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
9942 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 8:50 pm to
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We didn't create it. We responded to to what was happening.


You think this problem started happening in the 80's and just blew up?

You arent aware that we started this "war" because of racism ? In 1875 the first anti drug law was passed on smoking opium due to the Chinese. However drinking and injecting it was an exception due to white people using it in that way.

Then in 1914 we outlawed cocaine and opium because the negro was using.

In 1937 marijuana was illegal in 46 states because it gave Mexicans -super human strength. LMAO!!

In 1972 Nixon started the "War on drugs" Since then we have been locking people ever since. The entire sentencing is based on racism.

This isnt a just a war on drugs. Its a war on racism.

In the 80's when Reagan had the Just Say No campaign going, crack cocaine made its debut.

I suggest you read Dark Alliance by Gary Webb. He exposed this very thing with the Iran-Contra. His 2 gun shots to the head was called a suicide, if that makes any sense.

You have completely lost it if you dont believe we fabricated this whole war.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36439 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 9:25 pm to
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It's clear that there are a few willing to talk about the actual issue on the supply side.


Controlling the supply side is not a huge concern depending on your position on the demand end.
Posted by AUbused
Member since Dec 2013
7827 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 9:34 pm to
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Yeah! Let's keep pouring money into a failed cause!

Idiot.


quote:

420centraltme


This post was edited on 4/19/17 at 9:36 pm
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 9:44 pm to
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It's as equally important and I will post that tonight.


Please don't.
Posted by rantfan
new iberia la
Member since Nov 2012
14110 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 9:47 pm to
What most people don't understand is that the moving of drugs aren't done by dealers and gangsters. Most drugs are ran by business men who love CASH
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 9:47 pm to
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Please don't.



+1

The original post and replies are among the stupidest things I've ever read on this board.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296791 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 9:50 pm to
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Controlling the supply side is not a huge concern depending on your position on the demand end.


Where there is demand, you'll find a supplier.
Posted by Foy
Member since Nov 2009
4563 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 9:52 pm to
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It's clear that there are a few willing to talk about the actual issue on the supply side. As stated here in this thread, some just want their drugs for personal reasons.

That's what the US is up against.

But yes, it's time for the demand side.



No one wants to talk to you because it has be proven time and time again the "supply side" argument is horseshite.

Nixon's war on drugs is a huge failure.

Reagan doubling down on it is a huge failure.

Building a wall will solve nothing. Going after cartels will solve nothing. You are a simpleton that lives in a bubble. I'm sorry.
This post was edited on 4/19/17 at 9:53 pm
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
25886 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 9:57 pm to
There is no war on drugs. Police don't want to stop the flow of drugs into communities, the govt doesn't want to either, but profit and benefit from things just as they are right now.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55377 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:44 pm to
I would think it would be their 2 weeks per year. Makes more sense. That's what, 100 weeks?
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37525 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 12:25 am to
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I would think it would be their 2 weeks per year

Since he specifically said "drill weekends" I'm going to disagree.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 12:31 am to
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On those sites. Drill weekends can include physical training, advanced training, and work, for their military job or Military Occupational Specialty (MOS).

All of that can be completed


No, no it can't.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 12:37 am to
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And they're going to travel from their home state, assume operational control, conduct training and qualifications, patrol the border, and return home over a weekend?


A logistical nightmare. They're going to pack a months worth of work into one weekend. Not to mention the active duty personnel that would be needed for this fiasco. Again where's all of the money going to come from? We're talking about a billion dollars probably just to get started. Her so-called solution isn't a solution at all. It sounds like OP's been hitting the pipe a little too much as it is.
Posted by diplip
the Mars Hotel
Member since Jan 2011
897 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 1:22 am to
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here was more in that than where the drugs come from.

- Cartel members and gang members cross that border. Stop that while addressing the gangs here and you reduce the "car lots"

- Coming from mexico the country isn't the issue.. crossing that border is the issue.

- I addressed the cargo ships too.



You did not answer the question.

You do not understand the the supply side.

How can you stop what you do not understand?
Posted by AUbused
Member since Dec 2013
7827 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 6:55 am to
So, I saw where the questions was asked but no answer. Is the OP a "conservative"? Cause that shite sounds crazy expansive and looks to be a massive increase in big government control.

All to keep people from exercising personal freedom.
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