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re: WAPO reporting Nathan Phillips did not fight in vietnam war, which was claimed prior

Posted on 1/22/19 at 6:25 pm to
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 6:25 pm to
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To be fair, in every interview I saw he stated he was a "Vietnam Era Veteran". I think it was the media being either lazy or trying to turn the crank a little harder on the outrage machine that shortened it to "Vietnam Veteran". Maybe there's a quote out there of him claiming "Vietnam Veteran" but I haven't seen it yet.


Your post illustrates perfectly the underhanded tactics of the DimMedia, technically they’re not lying but they do everything they can to not present the “complete truth”.

The methods and level of deception used by the DimMedia is astounding.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 6:25 pm to
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It appears that he has never claimed that he fought in Vietnam.
No question. Neither did Trump. Neither did I for that matter. I did a great deal for the USAF. Combat, per se, was not one of the things I did.

OTOH, Chief Drumming Bull intimates he fought in Vietnam. Those claims are his own. He originated them. He's dishonest in pushing them. Period.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31578 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 6:28 pm to
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Please tell us what mos recon ranger is. I'll wait.


I don't think it carried an official Marine Corps MOS designation because there just weren't very many Marines who got to go to Ranger School. Even so, it was acknowledged as being as far as you could go, as a Marine.

Like I said before we even had running cadences about it at P.I..

Those little songs didn't mean anything official of course, but they were motivational, reminding you to do your best, and what you could achieve.

A Marine that got to go to Ranger School was a special SOB and other Marines took notice of it, even if the official MOS designations didn't reflect it.


I remember singing those cadences well...and so does my daughter, because I used to make her sing it when I would take her running with me. I did dial some of the parts back a little though

Edit to add: I don't know anything about this Indian drummer thing..don't know much about this story Have been staying away from all TV and not much internet lately. Just chimin in on the Recon Ranger thing.
This post was edited on 1/22/19 at 6:33 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 6:30 pm to
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OTOH, Chief Drumming Bull intimates he fought in Vietnam.


He never claimed to have fought in Vietnam. You can call him an idiot without accusing him of stolen valor.
Posted by namvet6566
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 6:40 pm to
DisplacedBuckeye.......for us it was never a long time ago...seems like yesterday
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 6:42 pm to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 6:54 pm to
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He never claimed to have fought in Vietnam
He claimed "I’m a Vietnam veteran and I know that mentality of “There’s enough of us. We can do this.” "
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 6:57 pm to
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He claimed "I’m a Vietnam veteran


And?
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24273 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 6:59 pm to
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Vietnam vet is the worst thing you could find.


You can claim to be a Vietnam vet having never fought in Vietnam?

That's an acceptable description to veterans who fought in that war?

Sincerely asking.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138899 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 7:04 pm to
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And?
NO SIR!
Run the whole quote.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 7:06 pm to
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You can claim to be a Vietnam vet having never fought in Vietnam?


It depends who you ask. Several organizations say anyone who served on active duty during that war is a Vietnam veteran. I believe that includes the VA. They do the same thing for Gulf War vets, whether they deployed or not. The distinction between Vietnam-era and Vietnam vet is somewhat recent as far as I know.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 7:07 pm to
Ok.

quote:

"I’m a Vietnam veteran and I know that mentality of “There’s enough of us. We can do this.” "


And?
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 7:10 pm to
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“There’s enough of us. We can do this.”
You think that refers to pickup volleyball at China Beach??????
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 7:11 pm to
What do you think that refers to?
Posted by AthensTiger
Athens, GA
Member since Jul 2008
2977 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 7:22 pm to
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The last Marine combat battalion was removed in 71

The last Marine KIA were in 1975 during the fall of Saigon and the Mayaguez incident. Their deaths are officially due to the Vietnam War.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98070 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 7:36 pm to
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And?


Hes as much of a vet as Blumenthal
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 7:40 pm to
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Blumenthal


Didn't he say he was actually in Vietnam?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98070 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 7:51 pm to
Yeah he was a Vietnam Vet just like Chief Drumming Crazy
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 7:52 pm to
Phillips didn't claim he was ever in Vietnam.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98070 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 7:54 pm to
That's great hes still as much of a Vietnam vet as Blumenthal
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