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re: Wakefield Standoff Suspects Claim To Be Part Of Group Called ‘Rise Of The Moors’

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Posted by LSU7096
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 7/3/21 at 12:53 pm to
Kill the Moors, armed insurrections!!!!!
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
24880 posts
Posted on 7/3/21 at 1:00 pm to
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The 2A doesn't apply to them? What did they do that was illegal?

I don’t think it should as they claim to not be US citizens or recognize the legitimacy of the US constitution. However, the courts disagree. That said the current interpretations of the second allow for regulation of firearms and the mass police appear to have been acting lawfully in their requests.
Posted by swolverine
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 7/3/21 at 1:18 pm to
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Posted by tgerb8
Huntsvegas
Member since Aug 2007
6393 posts
Posted on 7/3/21 at 1:35 pm to
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What exactly did they do wrong?


I know you're getting downvoted but I had the same thought. I guess the fact that they weren't able to produce the proper gun licenses when asked? Seems to be more an issue with govt overreach in Massachusetts... But I'm gonna go out on a limb and say these guys probably didn't have noble intentions.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 7/3/21 at 1:43 pm to
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But I'm gonna go out on a limb and say these guys probably didn't have noble intentions.


They were going to Maine.

Is that illegal?
Posted by BurntOrangeMan
Dallas TX
Member since May 2021
5628 posts
Posted on 7/3/21 at 1:45 pm to
Classic indeed.

Maid of honor in my wedding was a Sicilian mafioso princess, her Uncle ordered the hit on Danny Greene in Cleveland in the late 70’s.

She had sickle cell anemia & we were never the same after I shared this scene & the correlation with her.
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Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
27827 posts
Posted on 7/3/21 at 1:53 pm to
Should have just told them BLM and they would have left them alone.
Posted by tgerb8
Huntsvegas
Member since Aug 2007
6393 posts
Posted on 7/3/21 at 2:12 pm to
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They were going to Maine.

Is that illegal?


Absolutely not. And I'm not saying that any laws should be imposed just because they could've been up to no good because that's obviously the slippery slope we're on. I'm just saying.. they were probably up to no good. but if they haven't done anything wrong (which I'm not even going to classify having a rifle without some made up "license" as doing something wrong) then they should be "free" men like the rest of us.
Posted by VBFlorida
Florida
Member since Nov 2020
1338 posts
Posted on 7/3/21 at 2:32 pm to
The smartest thing the did was Block I95 in Massachusetts. Any other state they'd get harsher sentences.
Posted by IslandBuckeye
Boca Chica, Panama
Member since Apr 2018
10067 posts
Posted on 7/3/21 at 2:46 pm to
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Maid of honor in my wedding was a Sicilian mafioso princess, her Uncle ordered the hit on Danny Greene in Cleveland in the late 70’s.


Cistermino or Carabbia? Or is there another person who cannot be named?

quote:

She had sickle cell anemia & we were never the same after I shared this scene & the correlation with her.


You sharing that scene with here earns you a place on My Most Respected Posters List.
This post was edited on 7/3/21 at 2:54 pm
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
24880 posts
Posted on 7/3/21 at 3:20 pm to
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They were going to Maine. Is that illegal?


They were asked by police to produce identification and ran away into the woods. In Mass, that seems to be illegal. Maybe it shouldn’t be but that’s a different arguement from “what did they do wrong”..
Posted by BurntOrangeMan
Dallas TX
Member since May 2021
5628 posts
Posted on 7/3/21 at 3:33 pm to
Licavoli.

Honored by your reply.. my kiddos are Buckeyes btw.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 7/3/21 at 4:05 pm to
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They were asked by police to produce identification and ran away into the woods. In Mass, that seems to be illegal. Maybe it shouldn’t be but that’s a different arguement from “what did they do wrong”..



Any reason you didn't mention the police demanded their papers for the guns?
Posted by AURaptor
South
Member since Aug 2018
11958 posts
Posted on 7/3/21 at 4:09 pm to
Squirrel !!
Posted by themunch
bottom of the list
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 7/3/21 at 4:14 pm to
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
24880 posts
Posted on 7/3/21 at 4:16 pm to
quote:

Any reason you didn't mention the police demanded their papers for the guns?


No, I’d imagine the laws of Mass also requires this if asked for during an encounter with police.
Posted by CrusaderInfidel
Tishomingo
Member since Feb 2015
248 posts
Posted on 7/3/21 at 6:21 pm to
They’re a bunch of jackleg clowns...HOWEVER...where was the real crime other than each cars’ operators failing to ID themselves...what many are failing to see here is that these LARPers were arrested for not producing licenses for possessing firearms...why? Massachusetts...
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
51525 posts
Posted on 7/3/21 at 6:42 pm to
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WAKEFIELD (CBS) — Interstate 95 in Wakefield was shut down by a standoff between Massachusetts State Police and a group of heavily armed men Saturday morning. The men claim to be part of a group called “The Rise of The Moors – The Moorish American Arms.” The group claims to be American nationals but not US citizens. They have a Moroccan flag.



You know your country is in deep shite when radical Moors, who are not even naturalized citizens want to prep for an overthrow of Biden’s Clown World administration….lol
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
64405 posts
Posted on 7/3/21 at 7:18 pm to
White Moors


Beware the moors, lads.
Posted by ImaObserver
Member since Aug 2019
2428 posts
Posted on 7/3/21 at 10:17 pm to
Posted elsewhere -
“If the State converts a right (liberty) into a privilege, the citizen can ignore the license and fee and engage in the right (liberty) with impunity.”
Shuttlesworth v. City of Birmingham, Alabama, 373 U.S. 262 (1963)
Posted Elsewhere -
“Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no rule making or legislation which would abrogate them. Miranda vs. Arizona, 384 US 436, 491

“Persons faced with an unconstitutional licensing law which purports to require a license as a prerequisite to exercise of right… may ignore the law and engage with impunity in exercise of such right.”
People v. Battle
This post was edited on 7/3/21 at 10:19 pm
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