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re: Voting: Why do you bother?

Posted on 10/31/18 at 8:47 am to
Posted by bmy
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Posted on 10/31/18 at 8:47 am to
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You honestly don't believe that if the electors went against the voters of their respective state, there wouldn't have been an uproar?



I think this board would have melted down in unbelievable fashion. It wouldn't matter because it would be legal. The fact that it didnt happen is probably the biggest piece of evidence against the absurd theory.
Posted by TheFonz
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Posted on 10/31/18 at 8:51 am to
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If the evil globalist establishment elite is so incompetent, someone explain to me why any of us should be the least bit concerned about it.


I didn't say they were incompetent, but they are not infallible, either. No organization is perfect. Often it is small errors easily corrected. On rare occasions it is a colossal error that takes time and effort to repair.

We will just have to wait and see how Tuesday plays out. The Democrats may take control of the House and crimp Trump's style, and the powers that be will get their shite back together and time marches on.

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I think this board would have melted down in unbelievable fashion. It wouldn't matter because it would be legal. The fact that it didnt happen is probably the biggest piece of evidence against the absurd theory.


Yes it would be legal, but it would be unprecedented on a massive scale. Such an action would have drawn a lot of attention to them, and their biggest fear is exposure. They had the Russian narrative slapped together by this point and they were placing their bets on something sticking, resulting in Trump's removal from office.
This post was edited on 10/31/18 at 8:55 am
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 10/31/18 at 8:57 am to
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If the evil globalist establishment elite is so incompetent, someone explain to me why any of us should be the least bit concerned about it.



I didn't say they were incompetent, but they are not infallible, either. No organization is perfect. Often it is small errors easily corrected. On rare occasions it is a colossal error that takes time and effort to repair.
What was this colossal error, how did it happen?
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 10/31/18 at 9:06 am to
And now the thread is anchored.

Every thread I have started since Trump has taken office has been anchored....EVERY ONE.

In 12 years previous, I had ZERO threads anchored.

This board has jumped the shark. The admins are the worst I've seen in 14 years here.

Shame on you. It's sad how low this board has sunk since Trump took office.

What is it that you are so afraid of?
Posted by TheFonz
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Posted on 10/31/18 at 9:07 am to
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What was this colossal error, how did it happen?


Jesus Christ. Now we've made a full circle.

They overestimated Hillary and underestimated Trump. How did it happen? How the hell should I know? I don't work for them. Maybe their dependence on the media singing their tune wasn't as effective as they thought. Maybe the fact Hillary is about as personable as a leper didn't concern them like it should have. Perhaps it's been too long since they've venture out of their bubble to see what was going on in the real world. Could be a hundred reasons.

All that we know is that the candidate that was never expected to win won. Someone, somewhere, fricked up.
This post was edited on 10/31/18 at 9:08 am
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 10/31/18 at 9:12 am to
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What was this colossal error, how did it happen?



How the hell should I know?
Thanks.
Posted by bmy
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Posted on 10/31/18 at 9:18 am to
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Yes it would be legal, but it would be unprecedented on a massive scale. Such an action would have drawn a lot of attention to them, and their biggest fear is exposure. They had the Russian narrative slapped together by this point and they were placing their bets on something sticking, resulting in Trump's removal from office.


So Pence is deep state? What would removing Trump accomplish?
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 10/31/18 at 9:20 am to
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All that we know is that the candidate that was never expected to win won.
If you "know" that, it should be easier to explain than, "how the hell should I know."
Posted by TheFonz
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Posted on 10/31/18 at 9:25 am to
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If you "know" that, it should be easier to explain than, "how the hell should I know."


If a large corporation fails, it is public knowledge that the corporation has failed. The intricate details of how it failed is very rarely known outside of those on the inside.



Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 10/31/18 at 9:29 am to
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If you "know" that, it should be easier to explain than, "how the hell should I know."



If a large corporation fails, it is public knowledge that the corporation has failed.
Do private corporations allow you to decide who runs it?
Posted by bmy
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Posted on 10/31/18 at 9:29 am to
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If a large corporation fails, it is public knowledge that the corporation has failed. The intricate details of how it failed is very rarely known outside of those on the inside.


Were George Bush and Obama complicit in the deep state agenda?
Posted by TheFonz
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Posted on 10/31/18 at 9:36 am to
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Were George Bush and Obama complicit in the deep state agenda?


In my opinion, very probable.

Your next question will probably be "in what way?" Go do your own homework and research to find the answers and evidence that you seek.

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Do private corporations allow you to decide who runs it?


What makes you think the Deep State allows you to choose who runs it? You think the President is the Grand Master of the Deep State? They are just one of the more important pawns used to carry out their agenda.
This post was edited on 10/31/18 at 9:38 am
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 10/31/18 at 9:41 am to
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You never addressed the fact you said they wanted Trump so Hillary could win easily.
I've addressed it ad nauseam on this board. But if you want to start a new thread, I would be happy to explain it for the 20th time here on this board.

You're going to have to start the thread, though. I'm toxic in the eyes of the admins.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 10/31/18 at 9:45 am to
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Do private corporations allow you to decide who runs it?



What makes you think the Deep State allows you to choose who runs it?
It doesn't.

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You think the President is the Grand Master of the Deep State?
It is their top salesperson.

Would they allow you to decide who that is, or do you think they would rather hire a person of their choice?

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They are just one of the more important pawns used to carry out their agenda.
Correct. Do you honestly believe they would allow you to choose that person?
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
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Posted on 10/31/18 at 10:12 am to
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Would they allow you to decide who that is, or do you think they would rather hire a person of their choice?

Correct. Do you honestly believe they would allow you to choose that person?


Past Presidents have been happy to maintain the status quo. Hillary would have been the same; she would have advanced their agenda further than Obama did. Or so they thought. Like I said - it got screwed up along the way. They thought Trump was a joke. As things progressed, and Trump got the nomination, they started to throw crap at him hoping something would stick. His tax returns, grabbing pussy, me too women. No one thought Hillary could lose. But she did. So they think, we can contain this. Maybe we can get Trump out of there with the Russia thing. If that doesn't work, we keep flinging shite until something sticks, sinking his chances for 2020. But Trump has been resilient. Waiting four years is nothing to them. How much of a hold-up Trump will be for them for four, and possibly eight years, remains to be seen. Perhaps it will be a blip on the radar, maybe it will wake enough people up. No one knows what tomorrow will bring.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 10/31/18 at 10:37 am to
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Would they allow you to decide who that is, or do you think they would rather hire a person of their choice?

Correct. Do you honestly believe they would allow you to choose that person?



Past Presidents have been happy to maintain the status quo.
What does that even mean, the establishment has become the establishment by pure luck?

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Like I said - it got screwed up along the way.
That's a poor guess when you explain it with "how the hell should I know."

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They thought Trump was a joke.
I agree. And if they thought Trump was a joke, what do you suspect they think about you or me?

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and Trump got the nomination, they started to throw crap at him
That is an accurate description. You don't try to take someone down by throwing crap at him. They lobbed more softballs than a beer league. They did the opposite of what you would do if you were trying to take someone down.

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But Trump has been resilient.
Trump has followed the establishment agenda to the letter.

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maybe it will wake enough people up.
Trump is putting people back to sleep, just like the establishment planned for him to do.
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 10/31/18 at 11:03 am to
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What does that even mean, the establishment has become the establishment by pure luck?


Hell no. They have both sides sewed up. The bickering on television between Congressional Republicans and Democrats is just for show. Behind the scenes, they are kissing each other.

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That's a poor guess when you explain it with "how the hell should I know."


Well, what do you say happened? Something was fricked up.

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I agree. And if they thought Trump was a joke, what do you suspect they think about you or me?


They suspect that we will peddle along with out puny lives in the dark, happy with bread and circuses.

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That is an accurate description. You don't try to take someone down by throwing crap at him. They lobbed more softballs than a beer league. They did the opposite of what you would do if you were trying to take someone down.


What do you expect them to do without drawing too much attention to themselves? They figured they could either contain the situation, or that he would fail on his own accord and they wouldn't have to worry about him in 2020.

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Trump has followed the establishment agenda to the letter.

Trump is putting people back to sleep, just like the establishment planned for him to do.


So you are acknowledging that there is a "they?" If so, what are we having this discussion for?

Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 10/31/18 at 11:24 am to
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That's a poor guess when you explain it with "how the hell should I know."



Well, what do you say happened? Something was fricked up.
Nothing was fricked up. Everything went along smoothly as planned. It only proved that Americans are as narcissistic, dumbed-down, and ignorant as ever.

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What do you expect them to do without drawing too much attention to themselves? They figured they could either contain the situation,
Why would they wait until after the fact to do something about it? Doesn't seem like a rational philosophy if your intentions are to maintain control.

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So you are acknowledging that there is a "they?" If so, what are we having this discussion for?
Because you can't believe there's a "they" and at the same time believe "they" are that incompetent. In other words, they wouldn't be "they" if they were.

You can't have it both ways. It's either one or the other. If there is an establishment, then Trump is part of it. If there isn't an establishment, then a lot of us are making a big fuss over nothing.

Which is it?
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 10/31/18 at 11:41 am to
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If there is an establishment, then Trump is part of it.


Why do you assume Trump is a part of it?
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 10/31/18 at 11:57 am to
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If there is an establishment, then Trump is part of it.



Why do you assume Trump is a part of it?
I just told you why.

Well, that and the fact that he has followed every major establishment agenda to the letter.
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