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re: Vivek is right. Trumps going to lose using the current campaign approach

Posted on 8/1/24 at 12:33 pm to
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
25181 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 12:33 pm to
Hè's gonna lose due to the swing state steal/cheat....plus the campaign message is not good right now.
Posted by YouKnowImRight
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2023
2956 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 12:34 pm to
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How many campaigns has Vivek won?


I often wonder at what point will Americans learn that charisma does not equal intelligence or competence.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
29223 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 12:37 pm to


fricking Trumptards on this board loved Vivek...until they didn't.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
29223 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 12:39 pm to
So this is gonna be your excuse...

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Hè's gonna lose due to the swing state steal/cheat


because he's too fricking undisciplined to avoid this...

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plus the campaign message is not good right now.

Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13389 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 12:43 pm to
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That was only about a month ago. How has everyone who was cheering on his development now criticizing pointing out his devolution?

I haven't seen a harder 180 recently on here than when MAGA was cucked by Leftist media calling out Project 2025


I don't understand your point.

Trump wasn't present in the media much while undergoing his first trial. He didn't have the capacity to be. During the debate he conducted himself very differently than any debate he's had before. After the debate he didn't say much, which was exactly the correct strategy, and also completely uncharacteristic.

Now he's started doing exactly what he has always done.

I don't understand what point you're making about those of us who have observed and have commented on those happenings.

Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13389 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 12:45 pm to
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fricking Trumptards on this board loved Vivek...until they didn't.


Just like Trump.

VR is being a little too obvious about his own strategy here. This is him angling for 2028. Trump values (yeah, I know) but with a more effective campaign strategy from a young, fresh guy.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13389 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 12:55 pm to
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It wasn’t massive cheating. It was just a handful of counties and about 40k votes.

So there’s that.


By my count it was a few more votes than that, but yes, I post that same thing regularly and get downvoted and called names for posting it.

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You’re buying into a strategy of doubt we have all seen before.


I'm not buying into anything. Trump can still win, which is what I've been saying all along. But I've also been saying all along—to the idiots who have been predicting landslide victories—that it is going to be razor thin and that it could go either way. That's not doubt, that's just reality.

The people I'm talking to and talking about are the people who insist that Trump will win this election in a landslide, that he won in 2020 in a landslide, and if he loses it will be because of tens of millions of fake votes "like last time."

Trump barely won in 2016. He barely lost in 2020. This election could go either way. And the point of that is that his campaign strategy matters. it could be the difference.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89679 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 12:55 pm to
He’s leading the polls.

Things can change, but calling Kamala an Indian isn’t what’s going to lose an election.


Use your brains.
This post was edited on 8/1/24 at 12:56 pm
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
10341 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 12:55 pm to
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Everything independents and middle america women hated about him in 2020 is coming out.


I’ve been pretty busy lately so what has he done this past week that’s been so bad? All I’ve seen is a few threads talking about Kamala being black or Indian depending on whoever she’s addressing. What have I missed that’s been so egregious? Because as long as he hammers away on policy / vision I don’t really care if he pokes some fun at the media/dems about her race swapping.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89679 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 12:58 pm to
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fricking Trumptards on this board loved Vivek...until they didn't.



Liberals loved Biden until they realized he was going to lose.


I’d vote for Vivek over any democrat.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
20912 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 1:01 pm to
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fricking Trumptards on this board loved Vivek...until they didn't.
Still do, but he isn’t running for President anymore.

Vivek was my first choice, but he lost. So while Trump wouldn’t be in my top 3 of candidates I’d like to see be President, no Democrat I’m aware of would crack the top 50, so the decision to support Trump is easy.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13389 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 1:02 pm to
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What have I missed that’s been so egregious?


No one thing. But they are baiting him and he absolutely cannot resist taking the bait. They are controlling him right now, drawing him out into the same rhetoric that hurt him with swing voters last time around.

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Because as long as he hammers away on policy / vision I don’t really care if he pokes some fun at the media/dems about her race swapping.


You should.

Because that's exactly the kind of pointless, petty, junior high level bullshite that he can't resist engaging in that delights the mouth breathers around here because it's right on their level, but turns everybody else in the country off.

It's going to be difficult for him to maintain the slight lead he has if he continues to play pointless games like that.

And for what? Exactly what swing voter is going to say to themselves, "Wait, he's right! She used to say she was Indian, now she says she's black. I can't vote for that!"


Posted by fwtex
Member since Nov 2019
3400 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 1:17 pm to
I do not believe the Trump campaign has started yet. So far they are smartly waiting for the Democrats to officially commit to a candidate before deploying their true strategy.

My opinion is that right now the Republicans should be running a campaign that pigeon hole the Democrats into a Republican trap during their DNC convention. They could do this be pointing out the Democrat policies and alerting voters to watch for everything they predict the Democrats will do. Bonus flags, no religious faith, no policies to better Americans. It will be everything ALT America, alt traditional values, alt traditional Morales, alt American pride. It will be pro race baiting, pro LGBT, pro identity class politics, pro foreign entitlement.
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
10341 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 1:47 pm to
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No one thing. But they are baiting him and he absolutely cannot resist taking the bait. They are controlling him right now, drawing him out into the same rhetoric that hurt him with swing voters last time around.


Self control hasn't been a strength of his.

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You should.

Because that's exactly the kind of pointless, petty, junior high level bullshite that he can't resist engaging in that delights the mouth breathers around here because it's right on their level, but turns everybody else in the country off.

It's going to be difficult for him to maintain the slight lead he has if he continues to play pointless games like that.

And for what? Exactly what swing voter is going to say to themselves, "Wait, he's right! She used to say she was Indian, now she says she's black. I can't vote for that!"


I get that he causes himself trouble with that voting bloc. I've been of the mindset that he cost himself a lot of votes because of his behavior which the media absolutely played against him and voters are emotional. But this seems relatively harmless to me as long as he keeps the focus on the big picture which is what matters to people. Maybe he isn't doing that, I really don't know right now. I hope he is. The voters we're talking about need to know what a 2nd term of his is going to look like and how they and the country will be better off for it and contrast that against the disaster we're currently experiencing.
Posted by R11
Member since Aug 2017
5474 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 2:07 pm to
Off the rails???


Seriously
Posted by AlterDWI
Pattern Noticing, Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
6143 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 2:27 pm to
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I’ve been pretty busy lately so what has he done this past week that’s been so bad?


Nothing beyond pointing out Kamala is a lying pandering social climber. He also took the heat off JD Vance's childless women comments.
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