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re: Vivek going up in flames
Posted on 12/29/24 at 2:42 pm to Narax
Posted on 12/29/24 at 2:42 pm to Narax
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I can't really believe that those people were not available at ANY price?
Two points about that:
1. At a high enough price I could certainly have filled our needs, but the country’s needs would still not be met.
2. If the entire industry was not allowed H1B workers the unmet demand would send the price higher and higher until demand was suppressed by the high cost of goods, and supply rose to meet the new demand at equilibrium. The new lower demand would be the cost of we would pay, in reduced living standards, for the policy.
Note: Offshoring engineering would also have to be prohibited and importing goods engineered overseas would have to be prohibited.
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Posted on 12/29/24 at 2:48 pm to Penrod
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1. At a high enough price I could certainly have filled our needs, but the country’s needs would still not be met
So you looked at # of US grads per year in the field and number of US Openings, found that the openings exceeded the new hires.
Saw that your US openings weren't getting any attention and went overseas?
Posted on 12/29/24 at 3:09 pm to 50_Tiger
gotta remember this thread title to revive it at key times
Posted on 12/29/24 at 3:23 pm to 50_Tiger
Look at groups that succeed here. Their home culture carries over, often for several generations. You see it with Scandinavians in the Midwest, as well as certain Asian groups. Other Asian groups struggle as much as anyone else. Culture plays a huger role in success. Americans are, for the most part, lazy and entitled.
Posted on 12/29/24 at 3:25 pm to 50_Tiger
Yeah, he’s not wrong. Truth hurts, and can see why some may be upset, but he’s spot on
Posted on 12/29/24 at 5:32 pm to Narax
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So you looked at # of US grads per year in the field and number of US Openings, found that the openings exceeded the new hires.
These aren't new hires, Junior.
But speaking of newhires, I was hiring about 50 per year in some years. We hired the best we could, regardless of whether they were foreigners or Americans. New graduates were always our biggest hit rate. It was always easy for us to clean up on new hires, because our big competitors were hiring quotas and we weren't. So they had to leave a lot of the best on the table.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 7:57 am to POTUS2024
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POTUS2024
You went through a lot of trouble to make a contentless post that amounts to “You are lying”. I’m not. Everything in my post is the truth as I lived it.
I’m out of the game now, so no rule changes are going to affect me. What I’d like to see, that would be great for our country, is exactly what the Trump team is proposing:
- End illegal immigration
- Build a robust LEGAL immigration system that allows America to operate like a sports team, bringing in the talent we need.
- For seasonal type workers and laborers, use work permits with a path to citizenship for those who earn it by proving to be law-abiding and gainfully employed.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 8:39 am to 50_Tiger
He's a brilliant guy but inevitably wrong in this case.
The reason is strictly and 100 percent financial. Not about IQ, not about culture.
The reason is strictly and 100 percent financial. Not about IQ, not about culture.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 8:40 am to 50_Tiger
I’ve worked with many Mexicans and Indians. No one outworks a Mexican, and the Indians quickly join in on the American culture, specifically the part that includes prosperity.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 8:47 am to 50_Tiger
Nothing he said in that post was wrong.
Having said that, the H1B program is flawed. It ties employees to companies so companies can artificially keep wages down. If we are worried about talent pool and industry success H1B employees should be able to leave companies and go elsewhere when they want.
Having said that, the H1B program is flawed. It ties employees to companies so companies can artificially keep wages down. If we are worried about talent pool and industry success H1B employees should be able to leave companies and go elsewhere when they want.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 8:53 am to Bunk Moreland
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This is an amazing civil war. The honeymoon didn’t even make it to the inauguration.
It’s not though. It’s just you and your fellow libtards continuing to try to create a false narrative against the most popular president of any of our lifetimes who rolls in with an epic mandate to put his mushroom on your forehead. Loser.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 9:03 am to Narax
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Any kid getting that level attention is going to do as well.
It's money generating success
Yes to your first point and no to your second.
My wife and I raised four kids (standard white US middle class). We emphasized learning over everything else. All four of our finished near the top of their HS classes, got in the 30’s on their ACTs, got accepted into top 20 Universities (not invies even though they applied and exceeded the average admission by a fair amount).
As a result, they had a lot of Indian friends and acquaintances. It wasn’t money that put those kids at the top; it was the same things that put my kids there - an emphasis on schoolwork.
I’ll give you an example. When our first kid was three we took her to the library to get some picture books we could read to her (This was in 1990). I happened upon a book written by a guy who taught his own preschoolers to read. He discussed his methods (basically phonics) and emphasized how easy it was. I decided to try it. Each of my kids was reading the See-Spot-Run sort of books before turning four years old.
This is the sort of things Indians, and a lot of foreigners do. A Vietnamese woman I worked with told about life in her village. When report cards came out the student results and rankings were read out over a village loudspeaker. Her parents sat outside listening for their children's’ results, and there was hell to pay if they were embarrassing to the family.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 9:15 am to CamdenTiger
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Yeah, he’s not wrong. Truth hurts, and can see why some may be upset, but he’s spot on
He's wrong to a point. It has nothing to do with culture. If it was all about culture then why isn't India great? They have the best engineers right?
When it comes down to it these people are willing to work longer hours for less money. That's a fact.
These tech companies use these people's shitting situations as leverage.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 9:59 am to Penrod
Explain this to me then. Im an electrical engineer.
You can see in the profession that once you turn 50 your days are numbered. Lots of layoffs in that range to get younger people.
If engineers are so rare and hard to get why throw away almost everyone from 50+?
Oh yeah they are too expensive. Thats the real reason.
You can see in the profession that once you turn 50 your days are numbered. Lots of layoffs in that range to get younger people.
If engineers are so rare and hard to get why throw away almost everyone from 50+?
Oh yeah they are too expensive. Thats the real reason.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:32 am to ClemsonFann
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If engineers are so rare and hard to get why throw away almost everyone from 50+?
I’m also an EE, BTW.
We treasured engineers over 50 (or under 50) who were productive. I’can’t emphasize enough that we could not find enough people to do the work competently and passionately. If a 50 year old engineer wanted to be paid like a 28 year experienced guy, but he produced like a 2 year guy, then we cut him and replaced him with a new hire. But if he punched his weight we fought to hire him and to retain him.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:36 am to Penrod
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- Build a robust LEGAL immigration system that allows America to operate like a sports team, bringing in the talent we need.
I don't think anybody (or many) argue against this. But that's not what H1B is doing.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:44 am to boogiewoogie1978
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If it was all about culture then why isn't India great?
Because their industrious types come here
Posted on 12/30/24 at 1:02 pm to Penrod
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This post was edited on 3/28/25 at 3:51 am
Posted on 12/30/24 at 1:15 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Because their industrious types come here
India has 1.4 billion people so your statement doesn't hold merit.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 1:16 pm to 50_Tiger
He wants a country full of nerds.
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