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Visualization of the national debt exercise

Posted on 3/4/21 at 11:54 am
Posted by ChunkyLover54
Member since Apr 2015
6529 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 11:54 am
I saw site, pretty cool IMO. My kid's school was looking at in class.

Simplified version of the fed budget and you can make your own changes to balance it. Takes a lot of clicks, but I think that's a good thing. Shows how much damn money is in play. Basically we're screwed.

Would like to see local and state versions too.

LINK
This post was edited on 3/4/21 at 12:00 pm
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 12:03 pm to
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“General government”
I trimmed the shite out of that
Posted by ChunkyLover54
Member since Apr 2015
6529 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 12:08 pm to
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I trimmed the shite out of that


me too. Just shows how screwed we are. Either cut the hell out of everything or massively raise taxes
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29153 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 12:09 pm to
That POS Kasich popping up can tell you where this is going.
This post was edited on 3/4/21 at 6:38 pm
Posted by Rex Feral
Athens
Member since Jan 2014
11310 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 12:17 pm to
Increase military spending and cut out economic security.

Is it that fricking hard?
Posted by NineLineBind
LA....no, the other one
Member since May 2020
6908 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 2:11 pm to
There is a wealth of charts and data in the information tabs (blue lower case i with a circle around it.) Click on each sector of the economy to make more of them pop up.

It really highlights the unsustainability issue.
Posted by ChunkyLover54
Member since Apr 2015
6529 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 2:41 pm to
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It really highlights the unsustainability issue.


Yeah it's good, IMO. Of course you could look at first-hand docs for more but it puts it in perspective with enough info.

Those charts are telling. Eventually it will catch up in a big way
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 3:08 pm to
50% of the country doesn’t contribute anything to taxes yet everyone feels like they should have a say in what we spend money on. It’s pretty crazy.
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
56010 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 3:21 pm to
The tax aspect of this doesn’t take into account the laffer curve, but that is probably too complicated to put in this, and who knows what the true laffer curve looks like.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
59823 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 3:38 pm to
I was always hoping Trump would conduct his budget meetings like Bill Mitchell in the movie Dave.
Posted by chity
Chicago, Il
Member since Dec 2008
6080 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 3:50 pm to
Here is another scary site.

ex. every taxpayer owes $223,892.

US debt clock

Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63958 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 3:55 pm to
Whoah............ the revenue part of this says total Corporate income tax revenue is only 252 billion.

Complete and total shite numbers and a shite site with garbage misinformation.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63958 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 4:11 pm to
HAHA! If you click the "Wealth Tax" button you instantly eliminate 36% of our problems!






What a garbage "non partisan" calculator.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63958 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 4:12 pm to
Also defense spending only being 500 billion of the budget is LOL.

Garbage.
Posted by ChunkyLover54
Member since Apr 2015
6529 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 4:56 pm to
Defense is $782B. What should it be?
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13343 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 4:57 pm to
126.7% towards a sustainable budget.
Posted by Bayoutigre
29.9N 92.1W
Member since Feb 2007
5621 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 5:01 pm to
our illegit debt has been erased,a new gold backed currency will be coming
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63958 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 6:23 pm to
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Defense is $782B. What should it be?


Wrong, that's defense discretionary spending. Not total DOD spend. Most of DOD spend is hidden in the satanic web of "Mandatory Spending" which this stupid little puzzle in OP link doesn't address.


Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11096 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 6:33 pm to
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The tax aspect of this doesn’t take into account the laffer curve, but that is probably too complicated to put in this, and who knows what the true laffer curve looks like


You don't even have to use academic theory (which I agree with at extremes) it's just not a straight line. The problem is we haven't had receipts higher than about 18% of GDP. This and unproductive deficit spending and a failed education system means we can't grow out of it. So we will continue with monetary debasement and pray for a war or some sort of technological boom. These people talking about infrastructure spending digging us out are insane.
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
40068 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 6:35 pm to
Man, we quit caring about the debt as a country a long time ago under Bush/Obama.
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