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Video of two traffic stops, one white one black in Minneapolis
Posted on 5/17/21 at 4:28 pm
Posted on 5/17/21 at 4:28 pm
"It upsets me"
Warning XINN link
no shootings,no killings, more an interview of what happened in each situation.
Police falsely identify a young black man...he was being pulled over for speeding,- they start to arrest him because of a warrant, then police realize "oh crap" they have the wrong guy "Darius", they apologize and then let him go right away
Certainly, I understand this is hurtful and frustration might be an understatement
The question is, how do we get to a point of much less "profiling"?
If blacks continue to kill one another like we're seeing year after year (7500 on average), is it not nearly impossible to change perceptions or conclusions police might jump to in certain situations?
am I wrong about that?
We also continue to see a lot of support from the black community of victims who died at the hands of police because the victim was black.
That's the only connection,- skin color. Example (Floyd, Trayvon, Taylor, Brown, Sterling, Gardner etc) all were involved in criminal behavior)
crime is the theme coming and going
I think we all acknowledge it's unfair to be profiled just because you're black...but I also think it's ignorant to support criminals and demand justice from where we stand not knowing the real facts of a case just because of a shared skin color.
The direction we're headed is, hate is brewing on a "white system" rather than hating the sin and destruction which come from having too many broken families in poor black communities.
Am I wrong?
white girl pulled over, no issue...
Side thought: I think it's unfair to compare a young black male and white young girl based on what we see day in and day out.
Warning XINN link
no shootings,no killings, more an interview of what happened in each situation.
Police falsely identify a young black man...he was being pulled over for speeding,- they start to arrest him because of a warrant, then police realize "oh crap" they have the wrong guy "Darius", they apologize and then let him go right away
Certainly, I understand this is hurtful and frustration might be an understatement
The question is, how do we get to a point of much less "profiling"?
If blacks continue to kill one another like we're seeing year after year (7500 on average), is it not nearly impossible to change perceptions or conclusions police might jump to in certain situations?
am I wrong about that?
We also continue to see a lot of support from the black community of victims who died at the hands of police because the victim was black.
That's the only connection,- skin color. Example (Floyd, Trayvon, Taylor, Brown, Sterling, Gardner etc) all were involved in criminal behavior)
crime is the theme coming and going
I think we all acknowledge it's unfair to be profiled just because you're black...but I also think it's ignorant to support criminals and demand justice from where we stand not knowing the real facts of a case just because of a shared skin color.
The direction we're headed is, hate is brewing on a "white system" rather than hating the sin and destruction which come from having too many broken families in poor black communities.
Am I wrong?
white girl pulled over, no issue...
Side thought: I think it's unfair to compare a young black male and white young girl based on what we see day in and day out.
This post was edited on 5/17/21 at 4:31 pm
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Posted on 5/17/21 at 4:44 pm to ApexTiger
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The question is, how do we get to a point of much less "profiling"?
Either you didn't watch the entire video or you're being completely disingenuous.
He wasn't profiled.
He was pulled over speeding. Clearly, they didn't show the entire encounter on that video. You can tell by the way SHE approached him she had already run his license through the system and it pulled up HIS name as having a criminal warrant. THAT is why she had her gun drawn.
Once she got him in custody, she went back to the cop car. He probably denied he had a warrant and at that point she pulled up the mug shot of the Darius Strong who had the warrant. And, it was at that point she recognized it wasn't the same guy AND SHE APOLOGIZED AND LET HIM GO WITHOUT GIVING HIM A SPEEDING TICKET.
According to the video, someone else had used this guy's name when he was arrested and that's why he had a warrant.
The police women did everything by the book.
If you're over the age of 8, YOU should have already learned that anything coming from XiNN is fraudulent is is meant to distort the truth and the facts.
Posted on 5/17/21 at 4:46 pm to ApexTiger
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Police falsely identify a young black man...he was being pulled over for speeding,- they start to arrest him because of a warrant, then police realize "oh crap" they have the wrong guy "Darius", they apologize and then let him go right away
Falsely?? How about mistakenly?? Oh and those racist bastards let him go upon realizing the mistake., that’s it story over. The problem is idiots like you who think this is a story to begin with.
Posted on 5/17/21 at 4:52 pm to ApexTiger
All you have to do is ride with the police in a major city and you will see why they don't give black males the benefit of the doubt.
I am of the opinion that if the entire police force in Minneapolis, Baltimore, Chicago, Detroit, etc... were 100% black from top to bottom they would be treating most black males the same within a short amount of time.
Police learn how to interact with people based on experience. Nothing more. Don't believe this is racism. Now if you are a law abiding black person that has never been in trouble and are treated bad by the police you might think it is racism. But... is it really? It might be for that one black person but overall... it is simply a reaction to expectations gathered through experience on the streets.
I am of the opinion that if the entire police force in Minneapolis, Baltimore, Chicago, Detroit, etc... were 100% black from top to bottom they would be treating most black males the same within a short amount of time.
Police learn how to interact with people based on experience. Nothing more. Don't believe this is racism. Now if you are a law abiding black person that has never been in trouble and are treated bad by the police you might think it is racism. But... is it really? It might be for that one black person but overall... it is simply a reaction to expectations gathered through experience on the streets.
Posted on 5/17/21 at 4:54 pm to MMauler
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He wasn't profiled.
he was told "you're under arrest"
because his name was Darius... I'd say that's a form of profiling...
you call that a mistake? maybe an honest mistake but I don't think that happens to many white people...
quote:
He was pulled over speeding.
correct, no issue there
Posted on 5/17/21 at 4:56 pm to Tridentds
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Police learn how to interact with people based on experience. Nothing more. Don't believe this is racism. Now if you are a law abiding black person that has never been in trouble and are treated bad by the police you might think it is racism. But... is it really? It might be for that one black person but overall... it is simply a reaction to expectations gathered through experience on the streets.
correct and I agree with you
and black innocents get looped in with police experiences, how does this change is the question
Posted on 5/17/21 at 4:58 pm to ApexTiger
It's almost real life my cousin Vinny.
It's only missing the sack o suds
It's only missing the sack o suds
Posted on 5/17/21 at 4:59 pm to ApexTiger
I mean hell if she felt so bad why didn't she just quit talking open her mouth and let him go to town????
Posted on 5/17/21 at 5:02 pm to ApexTiger
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you call that a mistake? maybe an honest mistake but I don't think that happens to many white people...
I can guarantee same would happen to every single person whose name showed up as having a warrant during a traffic stop.
Posted on 5/17/21 at 5:05 pm to ApexTiger
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you call that a mistake? maybe an honest mistake but I don't think that happens to many white people...
Rofl...im not going to tell you what happened to me about 20 miles north of Laredo in 2013 then. They were hard looking for a white guy transporting folks.
Posted on 5/17/21 at 5:08 pm to ApexTiger
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because his name was Darius... I'd say that's a form of profiling...
GTFO here.
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you call that a mistake?
The literal definition of one. They made a mistake in identifying him.
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maybe an honest mistake
Are you implying otherwise?
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but I don't think that happens to many white people...
I'm sure that tons of Hunters and Braxtons are initially misidentified form time to time until it gets sorted out.
Hell, I know of a specific example - actually a funny story - we had a local pair of brothers - geniuses really - one a lawyer the other a doctor. They had the typical sibling familiarity but if you knew them both, you could easily tell one from the other. Anyway, the cops were looking for the lawyer brother, but the doctor brother was napping on the couch at the lawyer brother's house. Cops come in and the lawyer brother refuses to identify himself, starts a ruckus and it took a while to get it sorted out.
Not only white folks, but white folks with brains AND money. Just crazier than shithouse rats.
Long story short: It happens.
This post was edited on 5/17/21 at 5:08 pm
Posted on 5/17/21 at 5:16 pm to Tridentds
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Police learn how to interact with people based on experience. Nothing more. Don't believe this is racism. Now if you are a law abiding black person that has never been in trouble and are treated bad by the police you might think it is racism. But... is it really? It might be for that one black person but overall... it is simply a reaction to expectations gathered through experience on the streets.
This is a great explanation of how someone making racists decisions would do so.
Posted on 5/17/21 at 5:16 pm to ApexTiger
Now we need some paul Harvey.
Bet the innocent Darius loaned his car to latrell blindly...cuz....they cool like dat.
Latrell did some shite in the car, the car plates get made by a witness. No one could get a good look at the driver, until later. Identifying neck tat wasn't on the original warrant, and they sat in the squad car reading more.
Bet the innocent Darius loaned his car to latrell blindly...cuz....they cool like dat.
Latrell did some shite in the car, the car plates get made by a witness. No one could get a good look at the driver, until later. Identifying neck tat wasn't on the original warrant, and they sat in the squad car reading more.
Posted on 5/17/21 at 5:21 pm to Ace Midnight
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Long story short: It happens.
Gun pulled, gets handcuffed, escorted to the back seat
this young man is never going to forget that day...
he said he feared for his life...that's his experience
I didn't really see anything that would suggest he should be super fearful, he seemed to handle the handcuffing pretty well...probably thinking "what the hell is going on?"
Just think if he had resisted the arrest and he gets shot?
what a story that would be, right? Police shoot the wrong guy over a speeding violation...?
Posted on 5/17/21 at 5:24 pm to Texas Yarddog
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I can guarantee same would happen to every single person whose name showed up as having a warrant during a traffic stop
So the question is, how in the world did that happen to this guy?
some are suggesting he knows the other guy...
is that not profiling or jumping to conclusions?
I am just asking questions...not trying to troll or anything like that
Posted on 5/17/21 at 5:24 pm to ApexTiger
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what a story that would be, right? Police shoot the wrong guy over a speeding violation...?
That's why I want them to get things right. And I don't want folks to make it worse by resisting arrest.
In this case, he can say he's scared and I believe him. He can say he feared for his life, and I believe him.
But, you can be scared and fear for your life because of a near miss traffic accident or a natural disaster. Calm the frick down. Recognize the police are human beings dealing with human error. No one behaved unreasonably and ultimately, IMHO, this was a "no harm, no foul" situation.
Posted on 5/17/21 at 5:25 pm to ApexTiger
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Just think if he had resisted the arrest and he gets shot?
what a story that would be, right? Police shoot the wrong guy over a speeding violation...?
which is why we should stop having police officers engage in traffic stop. move to automated enforcement of minor moving violations and registration issues.
It's not like we can't get an image of a license plate identify the vehicle, speed, and status of registration from airplanes, road signs etc. Issue tickets and move the frick on with our lives. No need for any of risk involved what so ever.
Posted on 5/17/21 at 5:28 pm to oklahogjr
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which is why we should stop having police officers engage in traffic stop. move to automated enforcement of minor moving violations and registration issues.
We're not in serious dispute here, but enforcement will be a huge nightmare. There will be tons of, "I wasn't driving" and liberal judges will be clipping the cops at the knees for any technical defects.
It will also result in the expansion of the surveillance state as a revenue source. I'm not saying we aren't already dealing with it, but your proposal will make it mandatory. Like cameras on every residential street, watching everything and so forth.
Posted on 5/17/21 at 5:28 pm to ApexTiger
As the officer approached the car of someone she believed had warrant she had her gun drawn. (Most likely called in his license plate and it came back as a warrant for the car owner) The driver put his hands out of the window to show he he wasn’t a threat and she put her gun away. He continued fully to cooperate even though he knew they were making a mistake. There was no incident, they figured out the mistake and let him go. That is exactly how it should happen.
When the cops pulled over the girl they didn’t think she had a warrant, she also didn’t appear as a threat and she was treated as not being a threat.
Whenever I’m pulled over I always keep my hands visible and cooperate. I tell my kids to do the same thing.
Every time a police officer approaches a car they never know if they will be attacked or what they will face. These stops were not about profiling and an example of how it should be done.
I’m sure the young man in the first stop was scared . When the MSM and others constantly tell you that cops will kill you whenever you are pulled over just because of your skin color, while ignoring all other facts it will scare someone.
When the cops pulled over the girl they didn’t think she had a warrant, she also didn’t appear as a threat and she was treated as not being a threat.
Whenever I’m pulled over I always keep my hands visible and cooperate. I tell my kids to do the same thing.
Every time a police officer approaches a car they never know if they will be attacked or what they will face. These stops were not about profiling and an example of how it should be done.
I’m sure the young man in the first stop was scared . When the MSM and others constantly tell you that cops will kill you whenever you are pulled over just because of your skin color, while ignoring all other facts it will scare someone.
Posted on 5/17/21 at 5:37 pm to oklahogjr
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which is why we should stop having police officers engage in traffic stop. move to automated enforcement of minor moving violations and registration issues.
It's not like we can't get an image of a license plate identify the vehicle, speed, and status of registration from airplanes, road signs etc. Issue tickets and move the frick on with our lives. No need for any of risk involved what so ever.
that was tried here in Cary NC...
the program did not go well
the public pushed back and it was eliminated...
for example, making a left turn while waiting for oncoming traffic, then light turns, photo is taken with you sitting in the intersection and you get a 150 dollar fine
We're human and I think we have to allow for some grace in all situations, which only an officer can do a machine just records
automated traffic citations is a bad idea... there is not grace and you feel like big brother government is everywhere
rolling stop on video, I got a ticket for from the camera at stop light, well, actually my vehicle did... I got it out of the ticket by proving it wasn't me driving the vehicle.
but I got an email, notice of fine with video proof the vehicle, my vehicle made a rolling stop...
it's big brother government, we don't want that either
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