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re: Venezuela reality- it ain't drugs, it's China

Posted on 12/10/25 at 6:34 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296527 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 6:34 pm to
quote:


Here is the thing Roger, you assume it is propaganda because it fits your beliefs


the problem is after years of hearing this stuff and nothing coming from it, lots of folks lose faith.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84475 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 6:36 pm to
You made claims. Asking you how it plays out simple really.
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5560 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 6:37 pm to
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the problem is after years of hearing this stuff and nothing coming from it, lots of folks lose faith.


Well sure. Everyone wonders what the truth is. The one thing I can guarantee, you nor I know.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296527 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 6:38 pm to
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Well sure. Everyone wonders what the truth is. The one thing I can guarantee, you nor I know.


What I do know is nothing will ever come from it all.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10545 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 6:39 pm to
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Venezuela reality- it ain't drugs, it's China


If that's the theory, that's fine.

But anybody who claims Trump is against Deep State ops can't really accept that theory, can they?

The theory is basically that Trump is starting a proxy Cold War against China like we did the USSR.

Which gave us Korea, Vietnam, the AfghanSoviet-War, The Angolan Civil War, The Chinese Civil War in the 40s, The Greek Civil War, The Nicaraguan Revolution and the Congo Crisis.

I am a lot more accepting of those sort of ops than Trump populists, who run around screaming "Muh 'Merca 'Fust" when any sort of American support or intervention is even mentioned. If anybody other than Trump mentions it, that is. If it's Nikki Haley or Ted Cruz or anybody else, they are trying to start WWIII for profit, in league with the Dreaded Globalist Joo Illuminati.

When Trump actually does it the board cheers.

Populism is moronic. Sorry, but it is.
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5560 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 6:42 pm to
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What I do know is nothing will ever come from it all.


Maybe or maybe not. I do know that country is corrupt and has been crutched by china. That in itself has me thinking keeping our hemisphere safe might be a good thing. I guess we will see.
Posted by PurpleCrush
ATL
Member since May 2014
1410 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 6:44 pm to
I told you what it was about,

Now tell me you're view as to why an aircraft carrier is there, if not for regime change.

If there is a conflict and Americans could die.
Why are you okay with that if?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296527 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 6:44 pm to
quote:

. I do know that country is corrupt and has been crutched by china


Maybe. Well, it is corrupt but Chinese influence is a lot closer to our own border, if we're using that as the jumping-off point.

Its just odd to pick out Venezuela, when they are obviously not the drug problem Trump is making them out to be. Far bigger fish in that sea.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
19851 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 6:44 pm to
quote:

Fact


This is a silent war. China has violated the Monroe Doctrine and is using drugs to wage war on the US society. So it is both. Fighting China’s incursion into the Western Hemisphere and their weaponization of the drug trade.
This post was edited on 12/10/25 at 6:46 pm
Posted by Stat M Repairman
Member since Jun 2023
1123 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 6:46 pm to
quote:

trying to start WWIII


Ongoing warfare on five-continents close enough for government work.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296527 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 6:47 pm to
quote:


This is a silent war. China has violated the Monroe Doctrine and is using drugs to wage war on the US society.


So we attack Venezuela. Chinese "drugs" are going to Mexico, then here.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125448 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 6:50 pm to
Those tweets read like fan fiction.

X is such a horrible medium for reporting.

It just becomes narrative without the foundation of facts underneath it. Making 50 unsupported assertions in a row isn’t anything.
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5560 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 6:54 pm to
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Its just odd to pick out Venezuela, when they are obviously not the drug problem Trump is making them out to be. Far bigger fish in that sea.


Why can’t it be more than just drugs? It is very well known that Venezuela does cocaine but also moves a lot of fentanyl. There are more aspects about that country that inherently provide great risks to the US and this hemisphere. Again, you nor I know the whole story. Quit acting like you do.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
19851 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 6:55 pm to
quote:

So we attack Venezuela. Chinese "drugs" are going to Mexico, then here.


Are you legitimately stupid? You don’t think China has roots in Venezuela? You don’t think that the Chinese, who have a 100 year plan where it delineates using drugs to destabilize the United States, aren’t pushing the Maduro regime. Sit this one out brother. I spent almost 2 years of my life down there dealing with this shite. You go back to you crack pipe in Alaska and leave it to people who have experience.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296527 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 6:56 pm to
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Why can’t it be more than just drugs?


Because Trump is selling it as an anti drug campaign. If its other things, he just needs to be honest.

The public would understand "Chinese influence" before they would accept the Fentanyl reason.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296527 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 6:57 pm to
quote:


Are you legitimately stupid? You don’t think China has roots in Venezuela?


They ship the chemicals to Mexico.

Posted by BabyDraco1499
Hellexandria
Member since Nov 2025
818 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 6:58 pm to
If you think Venezuela isn’t our modern day rivals of Cuba during the Cold War, you’re ignorant. At least the admin has noticed it early.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296527 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 7:00 pm to
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If you think Venezuela isn’t our modern day rivals of Cuba during the Cold War, you’re ignorant.


Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5560 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 7:02 pm to
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Because Trump is selling it as an anti drug campaign. If its other things, he just needs to be honest.


The sinking of the “fisherman” is not selling anything other than stoping drug smuggling.

quote:

If its other things, he just needs to be honest.


Do you call a play on offense then let the defense know what the play is prior to snapping the ball?[

quote]The public would understand "Chinese influence" before they would accept the Fentanyl reason.[/quote]

That is being established as we speak. It is not just china but some actors from the Middle East.
Posted by BabyDraco1499
Hellexandria
Member since Nov 2025
818 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 7:03 pm to
lol question, have you actually ever SEEN things in your life? Or have you just lived your entire life behind the safety this country grants you? Are you just a pussy that cries about how unfair things are because no one loves you? Or have you actually ever done a single thing for this country?
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