re: Utah man who stormed the U.S. Capitol #blm #antifa #burn #frickthesystem #abolishthepolice

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and tried to undermine and change the results of a fair election.

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Bzzzzzt.

They wanted their voices heard, they wanted audits, signature checks, chains of custodies for drop boxes, instances of voter fraud actively checked out.

Yeah it sucks when the citizens oppose the deep state tyranny huh?

Was it mostly peaceful though?

You piece of shite.

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What a bizarro world where the Trumpers are doing exactly what liberals were doing a few months ago, trying to pin their violence on these “infiltrators”.

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You and I must be reading different things here.

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tried to undermine and change the results of a fair election

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How did any protestor try to directly change election results inside the Capitol yesterday? That’s a pretty strong claim, and you seem to have chosen that word deliberately. I would be very interested to know on which specific factual action it was based.

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They wanted their voices heard, they wanted audits, signature checks, chains of custodies for drop boxes, instances of voter fraud actively checked out.

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Typical you do that through voting and not barging into the capitol. The problem this time was that their voices were heard and the rest of America didn't like what they had to say. Joe Biden beat the piss out of Donald Trump. People don't want that crap anymore. Acting like you get to change everything because you didn't get what you want is actually drowning out the voices of others.

Antifa dindu nuffin... orange man supporters bad

Saw this dude on a YouTube channel earlier tonight.....he was exposed!

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Typical you do that through voting

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Oh ok, we'll just vote our way out of the suspicion that these massive fraud happening within our voting system. Great idea.

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The problem this time was that their voices were heard and the rest of America didn't like what they had to say.

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Source? I know the metropolitan blue counties didn't like the idea of metropolitan blue counties being investigated for fraud, but where's the opinion of "the rest of America"?

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Acting like you get to change everything because you didn't get what you want is actually drowning out the voices of others.

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"Change everything" = ensure the law is followed, ie there's actually a chain of custody provided for mail in voting drop boxes when a request is put in, ie ensure that the law is followed and mail in votes that came in after the polls closed weren't counted, etc,

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I don't really see how you can argue with that

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Is that statement supposed to mean something? I asked you for a specific, factual example of your claim, and you gave me feelings and deductions.

By all means, make the argument that the very small minority who broke in should be charged with the appropriate counts of criminal trespass or property damage, but making a statement that asserts they used direct force in order to literally change the electoral votes that were counted is completely disingenuous. They were never even in the same room with the legislators and had zero access to the ballots. They weren’t even armed, apparently.

The whole point of protesting is to make our voices heard and to ultimately effect change. That’s a fundamental right afforded to us by our Constitution, and you don’t get to equate the mere fact of that process with sedition or treason just because you don’t happen to like or agree with the group who’s protesting. I can also guarantee that with a group that large, had there been any real intent of invading the Capitol and actually overthrowing the electoral process, no one in the building would have been able to stop that from happening.

But it didn’t happen.