re: USSC Vax Mandate Day

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It is about OSHA's authority to carry out directives pursuant to that policy determination. There is a difference.

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A policy determination was made. According to Kagan, it was OSHA and its "experts" who made that policy decision. Now, we all KNOW that that is a bunch of complete f*cking bullsh!t and that OSHA was simply following the orders of Raping Joe so that he could do this "work around."

However, OSHA is taking the position (as Kagan suggests) that this is a policy decision it made. PERIOD. And, the plaintiffs should have the opportunity to challenge that policy decision. And, the only way to protect workers until that policy decision can be challenged is to issue a stay -- which is what the plaintiffs are asking for here.

Is this Breyer right now?

If it is I am very surprised. he is making some pretty cogent points.

I'm only half paying attention

overwhelming scientific grave danger

So will they rule today or will it be a few days?

If you are vaccinated where is the grave danger?

Why force the others?

This woman sounds like the fine print talkers on the radio.

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I don’t know where us “purebloods” are going to go? Every company or job will have these mandates in force. Unless you start your own business.

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I believe if you can work remotely you don’t have to take the shot, right?

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but businesses are going to go forward still.

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Already being done. This was all a smoke show to let businesses blame it on OSHA. Can't put the toothpaste back in the tube.

Either needs to be a full stay or not... if they Admin stay this, companies still going to push forward.

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However, OSHA is taking the position (as Kagan suggests) that this is a policy decision it made. PERIOD.

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Correct. And the legal issue at play is whether they had the authority to do so (ie whether OSHA’s authority extends to this type of general harm that is not inherent to the workplace or the work being done).

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the plaintiffs should have the opportunity to challenge that policy decision.

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That depends on whether OSHA is acting outside of the parameters of its enacting legislation. Like I already said.

The merits of the policy determination will never ever be before the court. The Court has no authority to interfere with policy determinations made within an executive agencies lawful parameters granted by Congress.

It is about OSHA’s/the administrations authority to make this policy decision relating to a general harm.

No no no no no.... Osha said they won't enforce if showing good will.

Do not leave this up to OSHA. Stay it. People are quiting because you are requiring them to submit vax status