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USSC rules that government cannot make a profit from seized property.

Posted on 5/26/23 at 8:38 am
Posted by HubbaBubba
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Posted on 5/26/23 at 8:38 am
A big win for property rights in the USA.

NBC News

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WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court  on Thursday ruled in favor of a 94-year-old woman over her claim that a Minnesota county violated the Constitution by keeping a $25,000 profit when it sold her home in a tax foreclosure sale.

The court concluded unanimously that Geraldine Tyler can pursue her argument that Hennepin County's decision to keep the surplus violated the takings clause of the Constitution’s Fifth Amendment, which requires that the government pay compensation when property is taken.

Tyler’s home in Hennepin County, which includes the city of Minneapolis, was seized because she owed $15,000 in taxes and fees. But the county sold the home for $40,000 and kept all the proceeds.


Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
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Posted on 5/26/23 at 8:40 am to
Insane this had to get to the supreme court. Seems like common sense
Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 5/26/23 at 8:41 am to
Good. This should be something that people all along the political spectrum can agree with. Theft under the cover of law is still theft.
Posted by jcaz
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Posted on 5/26/23 at 8:42 am to
It’s SCOTUS not USSC
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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Posted on 5/26/23 at 8:45 am to
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was seized because she owed $15,000 in taxes and fees. But the county sold the home for $40,000 and kept all the proceeds.

Soulless psychopaths. Holy shite.
Posted by Timeoday
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Posted on 5/26/23 at 8:46 am to
I pray this applies to all types of gooooooooooooooooberment seizures. Nonsense when people have spend a lot of money to prove their money is legally acquired.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/26/23 at 8:46 am to
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It’s SCOTUS not USSC

cite me the law for that inefficiency (2 more letters)
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 5/26/23 at 8:46 am to
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Insane this had to get to the supreme court. Seems like common sense


exactly
Posted by LolStarFishlol
Member since Jan 2023
728 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 8:48 am to
It still blows my mind that you can pay cash for property, but if you fail to “pay the taxes” you lose the land that you own.
Posted by GhostOfFreedom
Member since Jan 2021
11716 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 8:49 am to
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I pray this applies to all types of gooooooooooooooooberment seizures.


Except drugs. They should sell the drugs to the dumb democrats (with a little extra lethal level of fentanyl) and then use the proceeds to pay on the debt. Two birds with one stoned.
Posted by HubbaBubba
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/26/23 at 8:49 am to
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It’s SCOTUS not USSC
Didn't want to run out of space in title, but glad to see you figured it out in spite of my shortening the acronym.
Posted by HubbaBubba
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Member since Oct 2010
45784 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 8:55 am to
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 she owed $15,000 in taxes and fees.
Most of that was fines and interest, not the actual tax. Let's not celebrate her. She was a deadbeat taxpayer. She shouldn't have lost her profit in the property, but she ignored every attempt to settle the bill and allowed it to go on for years before the property was finally seized by the court.
This post was edited on 5/26/23 at 8:55 am
Posted by roadkill
East Coast, FL
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/26/23 at 9:36 am to
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She was a deadbeat taxpayer


She's 94 years-old - almost certainly on a fixed income - hard to understand how communities can donate hundreds of thousands of dollars to go-fund-me for all kinds of stuff but no one stepped forward for this - there's never enough money to satisfy the government. Pure theft.
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
4206 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 9:54 am to
So the house was sold for $40,000, how much was it actually worth? Tax sales on real property tend to be really shady. This may have been a $175,000 house sold for $40,000 in order to pay a $15,000 bill.



Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
7324 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 9:56 am to
How does this work for the See Eye Aye and their drug and other black ops where they have a merchant operation? Isn't that how they have additional non-appropriated funding?
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45784 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 10:08 am to
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She's 94 years-old - almost certainly on a fixed income - hard to understand how communities can donate hundreds of thousands of dollars to go-fund-me for all kinds of stuff but no one stepped forward for this - there's never enough money to satisfy the government. Pure theft.
In Texas, after age 65 you can opt to not pay property taxes, and they'll take it out of the estate when you pass away.

Of course, they also charge interest, which accrues over the entire time. Bitches.

At the will reading I can hear the attorneys, "And I bequeath the house to my rotten son, Jimmy, who never called, never sent a birthday card or attended family gatherings."

Jimmy - (pointing his finger at his two brothers and a sister) "Ha! Suck it losers!"

Attorney - "While the value of the property is currently estimated at $1.2 million, there is an outstanding loan amount on the property of $182,000..."

Jimmy - "Hey, that's cool. I'll sell the house and be rolling in dough. Y'all can suck it!"

Attorney - "...and a tax lien of $1.1 million."

"The rest of the estate was rolled up into a non-revocable, tax-exempt trust invested in life-insurance policies with non-taxable payout receipts of $5 million each to Bob, Eddie and Sarah, the other three heirs."

Jimmy - "What the frick?"

Everyone else, "Suck it, Jimmy"



Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 5/26/23 at 10:11 am to
Will it impact civil forfeiture theft
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45784 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 10:13 am to
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Will it impact civil forfeiture theft
Doubtful, but I bet someone will try to use this ruling against it, soon.
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
3563 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 10:15 am to
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It’s SCOTUS not USSC


This actually bothered you enough to make a post about it?
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/26/23 at 10:20 am to
Replying to @billybinion
Geraldine is far from the only victim. The stories are nauseating.

At 76 years old, Bennie Coleman lost his DC home over a $134 bill. The gov't sold the $197,000 house & kept the profit.

For months, Bennie slept on the porch—with dementia—thinking he'd locked himself out.

Replying to @billybinion
Then there's Tawanda Hall, who fell $900 behind on a property-tax payment plan for her Michigan home. After penalties, she owed $22,642.

The gov't seized her $300,000 house, sold it, and kept the profit.

The surplus totaled $286,000. This is not a joke.

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