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re: USMC Commandant doesn’t believe in protecting the country
Posted on 3/27/19 at 3:39 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
Posted on 3/27/19 at 3:39 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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No
Ok then you really don’t get it
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I don’t agree. There’s not a whole lot of people deployed right now in comparison to the rest of the USMC. Most of the USMC units that are deployed right now are support elements anyway, not direct combat personnel. Furthermore, units are gone regularly all over the country and the globe to train for weeks are months at a time. I have not heard but I don’t believe Trump has called for year long deployments on the border.
Well you have no real experience of real ops to base what deployment life is like.
Once again you just can’t stick support roles on the border and expect it to work correctly. This is not the Marine Corps function, the guard sure.
He wants what is best for his Marines so they can kill people and guarding the border does not help that goal.
Someone leaked private emails between him and other leaders. He didn’t publicly question Trump.
This post was edited on 3/27/19 at 3:42 pm
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Posted on 3/27/19 at 3:40 pm to Godfather1
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I do believe, however, that if these comments were leaked, he should issue a statement clarifying them.
I can get behind that. Clarification would be good because this type of seemingly public disagreement doesnt send a very good signal.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 3:45 pm to davyjones
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Just said he cant be trusted to do so.
He's a Marine. If ordered to do something, he will do it and if he cannot find it in himself to do it, I suspect he would resign.....but as someone who actually has run organizations greater than a party committee, I value my subordinates insight and evaluation of things.
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Doesnt instill much faith in that regard.
Have you ever heard the phrase "don't have your mouth write a check your arse cannot cash?" The last thing I want is someone blowing sunshine up my arse. If I have someone in a position of responsibility...and Commandant of the Marines entails awesome responsibilty, I want a realistic assessment of my current position and commitments and capabilities
This post was edited on 3/27/19 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 3/27/19 at 3:45 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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Once again you just can’t stick support roles on the border and expect it to work correctly. This is not the Marine Corps function, the guard sure.
Nobody is saying stick support personnel on the border to guard it. But there are plenty of line units in garrison that could use this type of “deployment”
Honestly, I believe it would be closer to training than combat.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 3:46 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:This is true. DB would have been called out long ago if other vets on the board thought he was bullshitting.
The people who know, know.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 3:46 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Let me know when you get to the hard parts.
It's the crayons, isn't it? There is nothing incorrect about what I posted. If the President says it's your job, it's your job.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 3:48 pm to northshorebamaman
quote:I would be embarrassed if i was one of those. for all the shite this kid is spewing.
This is true. DB would have been called out long ago if other vets on the board thought he was bullshitting.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 3:48 pm to troyt37
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If the President says it's your job, it's your job.
How dare you question the omnipotent authority of DisplacedCuckeye, commander in cuck
Posted on 3/27/19 at 3:50 pm to northshorebamaman
I don't doubt he's been in the military.
I'm convinced that him posting here is some form of treatment for PTSD or something.
I'm convinced that him posting here is some form of treatment for PTSD or something.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 3:50 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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Nobody is saying stick support personnel on the border to guard it. But there are plenty of line units in garrison that could use this type of “deployment”
You do realize a majority of every service is NOT combat arms
It takes 4-5 support personnel to support one combat troop. The Marines already being the smallest branch would be burt the frick out of you added border deployments to an already high ops tempo.
quote:no it would be closer to base defense training which is not what you send Marines out to do. The AF base defense group would be better suited for a border defense mission.
Honestly, I believe it would be closer to training than combat.
The best combat training is combat training
Posted on 3/27/19 at 3:50 pm to CarRamrod
quote:I don't get embarrassed over other random posters.
I would be embarrassed if i was one of those. for all the shite this kid is spewing.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 3:52 pm to northshorebamaman
good for you. i dont like to be associated with retarded liars.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 3:52 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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Issue here is base housing is 98% full with a waiting list bc our BAH is to low to afford any where off base
Your on base housing has always sucked. My BIL was a Lt Colonel at Camp LeJeune up until 7-8 years ago and he would constantly bitch about the state of housing for his subordinates.....he would say housing projects were better maintained .
Posted on 3/27/19 at 3:53 pm to CarRamrod
quote:I'm no more associated with DB than you are. Hell, you have more interaction with him than I do.
good for you. i dont like to be associated with retarded liars.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 3:54 pm to northshorebamaman
if you are a marine, you are associated with him way more than me.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 3:55 pm to CarRamrod
quote:I am not.
if you are a marine, you are associated with him way more than me.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 3:56 pm to northshorebamaman
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I am not.
Scored high enough on the ASVAB but not high enough for the AF
Posted on 3/27/19 at 3:56 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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Someone leaked private emails between him and other leaders. He didn’t publicly question Trump.
didnt know that. I have no issue with anything he did then.
whoever leaked it should be prosecuted
Posted on 3/27/19 at 3:57 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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Eta: I would understand it if he said, “we’re a maritime force, our job is to be forward deployed. This job is better suited for the Army or Nat’l Guard.” And I would agree with him in that sense. However, he did not say that. And furthermore, he’s essentially disregarding what his own commander tells him to do.
What the frick are you talking about? The military is budgeted for certain aspects and things, as he lays out deployment of troops to the southern border hasn't brought any extra appropriations from congress, meaning they have to curtail other items and programs they had need and planned for. He's simply angling for money, or to bring his guys home so that they can do what they need to be wartime ready. Nothing more, nothing less
Posted on 3/27/19 at 3:58 pm to KiwiHead
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by KiwiHead
Im not necessarily in disagreement with your post. However, there are a great number of civilians (and members of the military Im quite certain) in this country that rank the problem at the border highly enough that it's a top priority. It's simply not reassuring to see only reasons why this serious threat cannot be addressed as opposed to "these are the issues BUT here are the suggestions to accomplish this mission". Thus, as I agreed with another poster, clarification would be helpful. In that case Id certainly admit jumping the gun on all-out incapability of discharging duties. These types of admissions are rare on this board, but I aint afraid of it.
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