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re: U.S. soldier detained after crossing North Korean border without permission

Posted on 7/18/23 at 2:16 pm to
Posted by thermal9221
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Posted on 7/18/23 at 2:16 pm to
Oh he gonna get the Otto warmbier treatment.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 7/18/23 at 2:18 pm to
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He might have wanted to play a round of golf. The only NK course is right north of the DMZ. It may be shut down because they haven't hosted the NK Open in a couple years.
There were usually a dozen or so foreigners in the event. Usually won by a British guy. One of them married his caddie (all of them were young females) and the NK let him take the lucky girl with him back to England.
There's also a small one-hole "course" on the southern side on Camp Greaves.

Posted by Pechon
unperson
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 7/18/23 at 2:20 pm to
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According to FOX (yeah, I know), the escorts weren't allowed past the security checkpoint at the airport.



lol, they're not flying out of Osan anymore?
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 7/18/23 at 2:25 pm to
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lol, they're not flying out of Osan anymore?
You mean detainees or military in general? I was there 99-00 and we flew into/out of Incheon even back then.
Posted by Frank Belavis
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2020
288 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 2:26 pm to
Military: "Option A: face court martial in the USA, spend who knows how many years in prison, probably get slapped with a DD on top which fricks your life prospects up well enough."

Travis King:


Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 7/18/23 at 2:30 pm to
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There's also a small one-hole "course" on the southern side on Camp Greaves.


I wonder what the fee is to play that one hole.

BTW, whenever a Brit didn't win the NK Open it was usually a Mongolian. I had no idea Mongolia had golf courses.
They actually have about a dozen with the most popular being Genghis Kahn Course. They have lots of open territory but very few trees and the high temps during mid summer are about 50 degrees F.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 7/18/23 at 2:32 pm to
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Usually won by a British guy.


How did he win? Little Rocket Man shot a 72 for the tournament.
Posted by Pechon
unperson
Member since Oct 2011
7748 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 2:34 pm to
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You mean detainees or military in general? I was there 99-00 and we flew into/out of Incheon even back then.



I remember some folks flying into Incheon at that time, even when the new airport opened in 2001. I flew in through Osan in 2000 and left through there in 2001.

I would have figured a detainee would have gone through Osan rather than a commercial airport since it is a USAF base. I'm sure things have changed in over 20 years but I didn't think accountability of a detainee would change.

Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37437 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 2:38 pm to
Yeah. I'm surprised someone in his situation was just dropped off to fly commercial. He should have just ducked out at SEA/TAC and went to Canada.
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 3:00 pm to
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frick him. Leave him there. I wouldn’t give them a ham sandwich to get him back.

Sheesh. The guy could have mental issues.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116641 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 3:54 pm to
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Usually won by a British guy. How did he win? Little Rocket Man shot a 72 for the tournament.


Rocket Man couldn't play. People would see him shoot. I always read the official invitation online written in English. It clearly said that ALL countries were welcome....except South Korea.
If you signed up to play they gave you travel agencies to contact. You always had to fly into China and then get bussed to NK.

The British guys wrote posts of their experience. The weird thing was life at the hotel. It was big. Like 100 rooms. The only 6 rooms occupied were the golfers. Other people weren't banned, they simply had an average occupancy of zero.

The hotel restaurant staff was all giddy with curiosity. They had never seen customers before. Nobody gets laid off. You get paid the same whether or not you have cutomers.

They said the food was terrible even though it was the best in town. But the caddies were very pretty.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 7/18/23 at 3:56 pm to
Posted by tigersmanager
Member since Jun 2010
9109 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 3:58 pm to
wouldn't want to depend on Biden to get me out of jail
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
73791 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 4:21 pm to
Check your melanin.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68460 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 5:11 pm to
He shoulda said Mother May I
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109451 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 5:15 pm to
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I had no idea Mongolia had golf courses.
They actually have about a dozen with the most popular being Genghis Kahn Course. They have lots of open territory but very few trees and the high temps during mid summer are about 50 degrees F.


What about Tibet?

I've always wondered where the Lama's home course was. I suspect his long ball rep might have had a lot to do with the elevation.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/18/23 at 5:22 pm to
faafo
Posted by Jack Carter
Member since Sep 2018
12200 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 5:25 pm to
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U.S. soldier detained after crossing North Korean border without permission


Yet 50,000 Chinese and North Koreans enter our border illegally and we hear nothing but crickets from the communist leftists on here
This post was edited on 7/18/23 at 5:26 pm
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162027 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 5:36 pm to
update

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The incident happened a day after King was escorted to a South Korean airport following his release from prison, where he had been jailed for an altercation with locals. He was due to fly back to the US and report to Fort Bliss, Texas.

But in a near-farcical twist, King was only taken as far as security - then left alone because his minder was unable to pass through with him without a ticket.

Instead of getting on the plane at Incheon International Airport, he managed to leave the airport, then headed for the border tour.

The Korean Herald reported the US national had 'defected' to North Korea, although officials in the Pentagon and State Department have not given a motive for his actions.

King is believed to have spent two months in custody in South Korea. He then spent a week under observation at a US base in South Korea before leaving the facility on Monday.

US Army Col. Isaac Taylor, the public affairs director for US Forces Korea, said: 'A U.S. Service member on a JSA orientation tour willfully and without authorization crossed the Military Demarcation Line into the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK).



LINK
Posted by Pechon
unperson
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 7/18/23 at 9:22 pm to
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The incident happened a day after King was escorted to a South Korean airport following his release from prison, where he had been jailed for an altercation with locals. He was due to fly back to the US and report to Fort Bliss, Texas.


I saw this earlier today and I'm rolling. I guess things have changed with the Korean National Police. Back in the day, about $100-150 in South Korean Won would be enough to bribe the cop and get your battle buddy out of a holding cell.

Status of Forces Agreement or SOFA must have changed as well unless this "altercation" was King beating a man nearly to death. Usually heinous crimes like murder and rape, the South Korean justice system would handle it. Otherwise the KNPs would hand you over to the MPs and your command would deal with you.
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