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re: U.S. intelligence warns Israel is likely to undermine Iran peace deal

Posted on 6/19/26 at 12:42 pm to
Posted by TigerAxeOK
In the woods and by the waters.
Member since Dec 2016
38538 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 12:42 pm to
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Israel appears intent on maintaining military operations against Iran’s proxy Hezbollah in Lebanon

Objectively, it appears more as if Hezbollah is intent on continuing their war against Israel. And I'm no Israel apologist but I see what I see. Of course Israel is happy to keep fighting and killing the Shiites, but it looks more like Lebanon is kicking the hornets nest more than anyone.

So here's what I believe. The negotiators in the IRGC want a peace deal. The old guard in the IRGC (Hezbollah supporters) want no peace. They're fractured.

Nothing will be settled until the two factions fight it out, but sectarianism has absolutely no end in the middle-east. So here we are. Involved. And with no way out. And it's not like we can just "aRm tEh pEoPLe oF iRaN" because every time we've done that in the past, the armaments have ended up in the hands of terrorists and cartels.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16554 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 12:42 pm to
Irans stated objective is to rid the Middle East of the great satan- Israel

This is why they want nuclear weapon capability. They want to drop the bomb on Israel

It’s time Israel fights their own battle.
I’m getting sick of us doing the dirty work for Israel’s
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
5538 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 12:46 pm to
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They’re not defending themselves currently. They’re in ANOTHER COUNTRY currently


How should they be defending themselves when Iran's proxy is bombing them from Lebanon?
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
66367 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 3:11 pm to
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Dude, Israelis are in Lebanon, destroying Christian settlements and churches. Do they expect not to be bombed?


It's like we're all just supposed to pretend Israel attacked first.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
174717 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 3:13 pm to
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It's like we're all just supposed to pretend Israel attacked first.

Why are they blowing up apartment buildings in Beirut which isn't a Hezbollah stronghold?

They're looking to expand their territory. They deserve to be attacked for it.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
66367 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 3:14 pm to
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They're looking to expand their territory. They deserve to be attacked for it.


We keep hearing stuff like this about Israel, and it keeps never happening.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
174717 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 3:15 pm to
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We keep hearing stuff like this about Israel, and it keeps never happening.

Actually it keeps happening. You choose to ignore it.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
66367 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 3:18 pm to
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Actually it keeps happening. You choose to ignore it.


Oh really? Where is all this expanded Israeli territory?
Posted by ManBearSharkReb
Member since Dec 2018
6686 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 3:21 pm to
Dammit! Our greatest ally strikes again!
Posted by ManBearSharkReb
Member since Dec 2018
6686 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 3:22 pm to
Defending a foreign nation undermining American foreign policy is actually MAGA AS frick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
174717 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 3:24 pm to
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Oh really? Where is all this expanded Israeli territory?

Gaza, West Bank, East Jerusalem, Golan Heights, they had taken part of Egypt and gave it back as part of a peace treaty.

The IDF fights with a map of greater Israel as a patch on their uniforms. The current regime is dead set on the greater Israel project. You choose to ignore it for whatever reasons you have. But it exists.

Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
174717 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 3:25 pm to
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Defending a foreign nation undermining American foreign policy is actually MAGA AS frick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah...I don't get it. They're trying to undermine our foreign policy and the current administration and MAGA defends them to the death.

frick all of these Israeli first cucks.
Posted by 4quartaBamaball
Milky Way Galaxy
Member since Nov 2015
2068 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 3:26 pm to
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Oh really? Where is all this expanded Israeli territory?


That guy is dumb as hell don't waste your time
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
66367 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 3:29 pm to
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Gaza, West Bank, East Jerusalem, Golan Heights, they had taken part of Egypt and gave it back as part of a peace treaty.


Wait wait. We're supposed to pretend these were all unprovoked? Some of y'all have a really stupid view of history.
Posted by ManBearSharkReb
Member since Dec 2018
6686 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 3:29 pm to
I’ve been saying it since day one.
Israel uses the US to achieve THEIR foreign policy objectives. They are not an ally. And do more harm to the United States than any of our “adversaries”.

We have the highest population of Jews in the world outside of Israel. That is why we are involved in all their bullshite. They wield tremendous power over media and financial institutions and they just spent millions of dollars to unseat a principled maga guy because he didn’t support Israel.

It’s fricked up all of this is in our faces and we have people STILL defending them. There was a guy in a thread the other day defending them over attacking the USS Liberty. It’s absurd.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
66367 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 3:30 pm to
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That guy is dumb as hell don't waste your time


I can see that. He made it obvious when he led with "Gaza" and ended with territory Israel gave away.
Posted by ManBearSharkReb
Member since Dec 2018
6686 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 3:30 pm to
Provoked or unprovoked it’s not our war.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
66367 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 3:30 pm to
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Defending a foreign nation undermining American foreign policy is actually MAGA AS frick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I'm not defending Israel. I'm saying Israel has a right to defend itself. That's what is happening.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
66367 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 3:31 pm to
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Provoked or unprovoked it’s not our war.


Who said it was our war?
Posted by ManBearSharkReb
Member since Dec 2018
6686 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 3:33 pm to
The actions of the American president say it’s our war. Getting involved every time these fricking idiots get out over their skis makes it our war.
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