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re: U.S. Inflation Report Shows Effects of Trump’s Tariffs
Posted on 8/12/25 at 1:28 pm to Seldom Seen
Posted on 8/12/25 at 1:28 pm to Seldom Seen
Cry baby #1.
Trump is president. Nothing you can do about it.
Trump is president. Nothing you can do about it.
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Posted on 8/12/25 at 1:28 pm to Seldom Seen
quote:Honest economists would be able to sort this out fairly easily.
U.S. Inflation Report Shows Effects of Trump’s Tariffs
At current levels, it appears tariffs will bring in around $300B (April through December). Annualized, that equates to $447 billion.
Here is what AI has to say about adding $447 billion to consumer goods.
quote:in reality, it appears "inflation" numbers may have risen a fraction of a point at most. Make of that what you will.
Q: How would an added cost of $447 billion in consumer goods affect annual inflation numbers in the United States?
A: If a one-year, $447 billion net increase in consumer goods costs were fully passed through to consumers in that same year, and therefore showed up in PCE in that year:
Headline PCE (overall) would rise by about 2.16 percentage points. (Calculation: 447 ÷ 20,685.2 = 0.02161 ? 2.16%).
FRED
The goods component would jump by about 6.95%. (Calculation: 447 ÷ 6,432.1 = 0.06950 ? 6.95%).
However, the premise that tariff cost are being passed through to the consumer, given the numbers, would seem to be farcical.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 1:29 pm to Diamondawg
I thought the books would be cooked ALOT more than what was shown this morning....
Go figure.
Go figure.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 1:30 pm to VABuckeye
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Now do beef.
Beef and Veal up 1.5 was 2.0 in June.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 1:31 pm to bbvdd
quote:Indeed.
There should be repercussions to shite like this.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 1:31 pm to VABuckeye
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That can has been kicked down the road so often that it now needs replaced.
Not true. I get that you hate all things Trump, you show it every chance you get on the money board. But lying is beneath you. I thought you better than the OP and his alters.
The only thing that has been pushed down the road is the NEW tariffs. Everything from the first round is in place.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 1:31 pm to SDVTiger
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There were zero effects of inflation due to tarrifs in the report
I'm not sure how y'all missed this, but the core index was at 3.1%, which is the fastest increase since January.
In other words, tariffs have us back at Biden levels of rate of inflation.
And they're just getting started.
Again, check back this time next year.
(Actually, I think Trump will pull the plug before then. That's one of the few good things about populism. When your groundless decisions based on zero principle produce awful results, you can—without violating any core principles, because you didn't have any in the first place—just reverse gears, claim the idea was great but scapegoat someone else for the failure, and keep right on trucking.)
Posted on 8/12/25 at 1:32 pm to VABuckeye
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You forgot the price of beef.
Are you saying beef wasn't over the top the past 5 years???
LMAO!.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 1:35 pm to VABuckeye
I'm so happy trump won to make you losers like even more miserable.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 1:39 pm to mwade91383
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1) stock market is pretty much flat since inauguration.
The Dow Jones was 43,846 on 1/17 currently 44431.
it was within 60 points of it's all time high last month. All time high was set in Dec 24.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 1:44 pm to bbvdd
Thank you for illustrating my point.
Do the % growth. Certainly you’re not touting that as a good 7mo return….
Do the % growth. Certainly you’re not touting that as a good 7mo return….
This post was edited on 8/12/25 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 8/12/25 at 1:46 pm to wackatimesthree
quote:"Again," the calculated rate of inflation (and it's a one-off) would be 6.95% annualized, given current tariff revenue, if costs were passed through. We are nowhere near that.
Again, check back this time next year.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 1:46 pm to wackatimesthree
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In other words, tariffs have us back at Biden levels of rate of inflation.
Wow
Posted on 8/12/25 at 1:47 pm to wackatimesthree
Boy you really are consumed huh?
Posted on 8/12/25 at 1:48 pm to mwade91383
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Do the % growth. Certainly you’re not touting that as a good 7mo return….
Annualized its 2.6%.
Not great for sure but not flat like you claimed.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 1:49 pm to bbvdd
I mean I guess if you wanna argue “pretty much flat” is off base, fine.
The point is the idea that tarriffs have been some big win for the markets is nonsense.
The point is the idea that tarriffs have been some big win for the markets is nonsense.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 1:50 pm to BCreed1
Are you saying beef hasn't seen significant price increases in 2025?
LMAO
LMAO
Posted on 8/12/25 at 1:52 pm to Seldom Seen
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U.S. Inflation Report Shows Effects of Trump’s Tariffs
There shouldn't be too much in the inflation data at this point in time related to the inflationary effects of tariffs. Had Trump not almost entirely abandoned his first tariff policy we would be seeing it by now. But that isn't what happened.
Trump announced really high across the board tariffs, then reversed course before they actually went into effect. He then has announced significantly lower across the board tariffs that have been largely deferred and put off. There are some tariffs that have been imposed, at significantly lower rates than originally announced, and those should have some effect. But the true effect of the policy is unknown at this time because it hasn't been fully implemented.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 1:53 pm to jbdawgs03
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Boy you really are consumed huh?
Yes, I am consumed with common sense when it comes to economics.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 1:54 pm to TBoy
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He then has announced significantly lower across the board tariffs that have been largely deferred and put off.
He increased the steel tariff from 25% to 50% across the board, that's the big one.
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