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re: U.S. has 2 survivors in custody after strike on alleged Venezuelan cartel boat

Posted on 10/17/25 at 7:58 pm to
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55585 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 7:58 pm to
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This is a war on drugs and we will win.

It’s pretty clear this is not a war on drugs.

They are gearing up for regime change in Venezuela. I like it, but that’s what it looks to be.
Posted by AquaAg84
Member since May 2013
3874 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 8:06 pm to
And the link is from NBC - "an alleged Venezuelan drug cartel boat"

Alleged is the important word here. The MSM is going strong to try to paint the current admin as reckless or whatever.
This post was edited on 10/17/25 at 9:28 pm
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
20205 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 8:07 pm to
quote:

It’s pretty clear this is not a war on drugs.


So these incredibly expensive over the horizon ocean going speed boats are just some Venezuelans out having some fun and not being tracked by military intelligence as they load their narcotics and take to sea?
Posted by duckblind56
South of Ellick
Member since Sep 2023
5353 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 8:18 pm to
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It would be funny to find out it wasn’t a drug boat


So you throw that dumbass comment out there without following up with a "why"....typical liberal dimass.
Posted by soonerinlOUisiana
South of I-10
Member since Aug 2012
2063 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 8:21 pm to
quote:

2 survivors


How disappointing.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55585 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 8:58 pm to
quote:

So these incredibly expensive over the horizon ocean going speed boats are just some Venezuelans out having some fun and not being tracked by military intelligence as they load their narcotics and take to sea?

No, they are running narcotics. And that’s not why we’re there.
Posted by Ridgewalker
Member since Aug 2012
4207 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 9:04 pm to
They shouldn't have picked them up in the first place.
Now the Democrats will want to give them a home, a vote, etc.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
20205 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 9:09 pm to
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No, they are running narcotics. And that’s not why we’re there.


Dude, we are finally prosecuting a “war on drugs”. If the illegitimate Venezuelan government happens to topple all the better. There are a shite ton of respectable Venezuelan’s that would quickly return and take over it would be nothing like we have seen with other regime change operations.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55585 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 9:13 pm to
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Dude, we are finally prosecuting a “war on drugs”. If the illegitimate Venezuelan government happens to topple all the better. There are a shite ton of respectable Venezuelan’s that would quickly return and take over it would be nothing like we have seen with other regime change operations.

We are there for regime change. And I approve of it, so stop the sanctimonious lecturing about how this is different. They are all different. Some are stupid, and some are smart. I think this is a smart one.

My only complaint is that this should be run through congress. We are getting in dangerous territory when a President can openly violate the Constitution by conducting an undeclared war on another nation.

ETA: However, if Trump can topple the regime by cutting off the flow of narcotics, and thus the money it brings in, then he does not need congress’ approval.
This post was edited on 10/17/25 at 9:15 pm
Posted by AquaAg84
Member since May 2013
3874 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 9:30 pm to
quote:

My only complaint is that this should be run through congress. We are getting in dangerous territory when a President can openly violate the Constitution by conducting an undeclared war on another nation.

ETA: However, if Trump can topple the regime by cutting off the flow of narcotics, and thus the money it brings in, then he does not need congress’ approval.


You seem to be as wishy washy as a typical Dem woman.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55585 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 9:34 pm to
quote:

You seem to be as wishy washy as a typical Dem woman.

“Wishy washy” is a pejorative meaning changing one’s mind. There is none of that in my post, which discusses alternatives.
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
11940 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 9:39 pm to
Pictures showing one boater hands up and then face down on the boat ALSO showed the boat to have many, many closely packed square packages tightly wrapped in brown ?paper.
The brown wasn't teak or any wood that I've ever seen on boats. The packages were fit together as if the boat were built to hold them. The fit wasn't random.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55585 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 9:40 pm to
quote:

Pictures showing one boater hands up and then face down on the boat ALSO showed the boat to have many, many closely packed square packages tightly wrapped in brown ?paper.
The brown wasn't teak or any wood that I've ever seen on boats. The packages were fit together as if the boat were built to hold them. The fit wasn't random.

Yeah, drugs.
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
21923 posts
Posted on 10/18/25 at 8:31 am to
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