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re: US government is running out of money faster than expected, Mnuchin warns
Posted on 7/12/19 at 2:08 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Posted on 7/12/19 at 2:08 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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The federal government has not been able to borrow money since March, when congressionally-mandated borrowing limits went back into force. The US Treasury, which is facing a growing deficit thanks in part to President Donald Trump's 2017 tax cuts, had said it had enough cash to last until the fall.
I think this has more to do with it... $3,355,970,000,000 Federal Spending Sets Record Through June.
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Posted on 7/12/19 at 2:08 pm to TBPland
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It's a spending problem.
The Feds take in enough money
Didn't Trump just sign a couple $1.3 Trillion dollar plus spending bills in 2018/19?
Posted on 7/12/19 at 2:09 pm to Carl Kolchak
spending problem seems to be the talking point
Posted on 7/12/19 at 2:10 pm to LSUTIGER in TEXAS
It’s not entitlements. It’s handout.
Posted on 7/12/19 at 2:11 pm to TBoy
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Don’t worry. Trump will save us all from Trump. TBoy
Stick to dicks and buttholes ....
Things you are good with.
This post was edited on 7/12/19 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 7/12/19 at 2:17 pm to Ace Midnight
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Well, I'm just going to go ahead and have to call bull shite on this, as receipts are up, up, up, month-over-month so, like we've been telling you folks my whole life, the United States Treasury DOES NOT have a revenue problem.
Receipts were essentially flat between the past 2 complete government fiscal year periods ended Sep 2017 and Sep 2018. Mathematically, it is a 0.4% increase. With a margin of error, that is basically flat. I wouldn't call that "up, up, up"
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This post was edited on 7/12/19 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 7/12/19 at 2:19 pm to pizzatiger
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Receipts were essentially flat between the past 2 complete government fiscal year periods ended Sep 2017 and Sep 2018.
What are they FY to date?
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With a margin of error, that is basically flat.
So, then, you absolutely agree that the Trump tax cuts did not reduce revenue?
Posted on 7/12/19 at 2:24 pm to TigerFanatic99
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What part of tax receipts being up since the tax cuts is hard to understand?
For the three months of fiscal 2018 prior to the tax cut, individual income tax collections rose by 10.8 percent over the equivalent period from 2017. But the rise for the seven months after the tax cut was 6.7 percent.
And if you look at total tax collections from every category, rather than just individual income taxes, the picture is even worse. During the seven-month period after the tax bill passed, total receipts actually fell slightly compared to the equivalent period in 2017, by about a tenth of a percentage point.
Perhaps the most revealing comparison takes in the May-to-July period, because it excludes the spike in payments in April, when most Americans pay taxes on income generated in 2017, before the tax law was passed. During that period, individual income tax collections fell by about 1 percent compared to 2017.
Posted on 7/12/19 at 2:25 pm to Ace Midnight
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What are they FY to date?
Virtually flat
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So, then, you absolutely agree that the Trump tax cuts did not reduce revenue?
Yeah, in absolute dollars. It definitely isn't "up, up, up."
Economic growth was also solid during that timeframe. It's hard to know exactly how much the tax cuts affected receipts, but when you start looking at things into the future, the marginal differences could dig us deeper during leaner times.
This post was edited on 7/12/19 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 7/12/19 at 2:26 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Mickey, why are you blaming this on the tax cuts?
Something like 90% of the deficit increase is due to ss and Medicare.
You could eliminate the TCJA and barely anything would change re: deficit
Something like 90% of the deficit increase is due to ss and Medicare.
You could eliminate the TCJA and barely anything would change re: deficit
Posted on 7/12/19 at 2:26 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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"Based on updated projections, there is a scenario in which we run of out cash in early September, before Congress reconvenes," Mnuchin wrote in a letter.
I was wondering what the "crisis before Congress vacation" was going to be this year
Posted on 7/12/19 at 2:31 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Mickey, why are you blaming this on the tax cuts?
I'm not. I'm responding to a specific post.
Posted on 7/12/19 at 2:32 pm to upgrayedd
There is a scenario...
Lol
Lol
Posted on 7/12/19 at 2:33 pm to Mickey Goldmill
The fact is this
Our two major parties are scared shitless of trying to tamper with Medicare or SS
Our long term debt issues will not be fixed until something gives
Old people vote at much higher rates than others
The first party that does something like mean testing ss.....oh boy, midterms would be a landslide
Our two major parties are scared shitless of trying to tamper with Medicare or SS
Our long term debt issues will not be fixed until something gives
Old people vote at much higher rates than others
The first party that does something like mean testing ss.....oh boy, midterms would be a landslide
Posted on 7/12/19 at 2:34 pm to Magician2
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What budget would you propose and what cuts would you make?
Cut 1% per year per agency. Including defense and intelligence. Until balanced.
Posted on 7/12/19 at 2:35 pm to wookalar1013
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spending problem seems to be the talking point
All while ignoring who signs the spending bills
Posted on 7/12/19 at 2:35 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Totally agree with all of that
Posted on 7/12/19 at 2:35 pm to bmy
stop spending some much. BOOM!
Posted on 7/12/19 at 2:36 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Your name I say Goldmill? You need to voluntarily remit an additional 10% of your income back to the federal government, think of it as a tithe to your god.
Posted on 7/12/19 at 2:37 pm to wickowick
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ny yet tax receipts are at record numbers. It is a spending problem not an income problem.
And your excuse for Trump and the gop controlled house and senate from 16-18 is what?
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