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re: U.S. Federal District Judge: Bans ICE from arresting illegals.

Posted on 4/30/25 at 4:10 pm to
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3784 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 4:10 pm to
quote:

You should hate this if you care about the illegals.

You're trying too hard.

I care about protecting my rights as a citizen. I don't want to be swept up in some over-broad search for illegals. I resent federal government overreach, therefore, I like a high standard for them to be picking people up off the street.
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3784 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 4:14 pm to
quote:

You didn’t understand what you read.


"...unless they have a warrant or a reason to believe the person might flee..."

You conveniently omitted a condition.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
9760 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 4:14 pm to
That judge and anyone who thinks like they/them can frick right off and DIAF. We're not stopping. MAGA, bitches!
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
9760 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 4:15 pm to
quote:


i hope trumps' team is compiling a list of all these anti-american judges and that congress will grow some balls and start removing these acitvists installed by the biden cartel.


I'm sure they are.
Posted by YouAreAllPathetic
Member since Apr 2025
166 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 4:16 pm to
This squishy shite is why we’re never going to be able to have a country again. You realize what we’re up against? This whole weak federal government shite isn’t going to work against this enemy. These are not people operating in good faith. They want you dead, they want me dead, they never stop until they have full control and power. What we do isn’t going to make them any more or less inclined unless there is no way for them to ever get their hands on anything again.

You’re not getting that with principled apple pie small government bullshite. Sorry, hate to burst your fantasy land, but that isn’t happening. Reliever wins is going to be the side that isn’t afraid to stand up, take full control, and actually root them all out once and for all,
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57114 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 4:17 pm to
quote:

You're trying too hard.


I’m pointing out the unintended consequences of this horrible ruling. You don’t care about illegals. You don’t care about this clearly erroneous ruling either. You just don’t like Trump.

quote:

I care about protecting my rights as a citizen.


There is nothing happening that has changed as it pertains to your rights as a citizen.

quote:

I like a high standard for them to be picking people up off the street.


The standard hasn’t changed for illegals or citizens for decades. And they have the same standard.

Again, this is clearly about Trump. Nothing has changed. Except this judge now causing massive backlogs in immigration courts and detention centers and her order violating the law. That’s it. Not one thing you are clutching your pearls over has changed.
Posted by YouAreAllPathetic
Member since Apr 2025
166 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 4:19 pm to
He cares more about muh principles than actually protecting his loved ones.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57114 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 4:19 pm to
quote:

unless they have a warrant or a reason to believe the person might flee..


It is still in opposition to federal law. And you whine about the reasonable suspicion standard but trust government to determine if a person might flee?

What is the judges definition of flee?

I’ll tell you again. You should stop defending this ruling. It is clearly going to be overturned.
This post was edited on 4/30/25 at 4:21 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135691 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 4:20 pm to
quote:

I care about protecting my rights as a citizen.
and?
We all care about numerous things, none of which relate at all to the OP.
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3784 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 4:37 pm to
quote:

you whine about the reasonable suspicion standard but trust government to determine if a person might flee?

No, you're projecting WAY too fricking much on me ITT. I never said I trust the federal government. Your bias is getting in the way of your understanding. It's okay, it's terribly common on this board. I guess people think it makes it more fun to be adversarial. One poster ITT addressed my comments calmly and without bias. It wasn't you.

I'll ask you, does the ruling allow for authorities to pick up suspected illegals without a warrant?
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3784 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 4:38 pm to
This is where authoritarianism comes from on the Right.
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
5539 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 4:38 pm to
quote:

They're just building case for impeaching Trump if they take back congress next year. No other explanation


Senate will not be able to convict, but it’s civil war of this goes down.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135691 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 4:39 pm to
quote:

This is where authoritarianism comes from on the Right.
NO!
This is where lawlessness comes from the left.
Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
Member since Feb 2025
2033 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 4:41 pm to
Just ignore him because this one is so obviously unattached to the Constitution it's not even funny. They can arrest you and me if they see us committing a crime but the court wants me to believe that if an ice agent watches you walk across the border he can't arrest you before he runs to a judge and gets a warrant? Let these frickers try to enforce it and then when they do arrest them.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57114 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 4:42 pm to
quote:

Your bias is getting in the way of your understanding


My bias is towards enforcing the federal immigration laws. This ruling is contrary to that.

quote:

does the ruling allow for authorities to pick up suspected illegals without a warrant?


Only if they think they will flee. Which is contrary to federal law. She also didn’t define flee. Super squishy, right?


quote:

It's okay, it's terribly common on this board.


classic liberal projection
This post was edited on 4/30/25 at 4:43 pm
Posted by YouAreAllPathetic
Member since Apr 2025
166 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 4:43 pm to
Not going to work on me. If that’s what you want to call authoritarianism, then by your definition we need authoritarianism.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135691 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 4:43 pm to
quote:

does the ruling allow for authorities to pick up suspected illegals without a warrant?
NOT THE ISSUE!
Does the ruling allow authorities to act in accordance with the law?
It does not!
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55427 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 4:43 pm to
quote:

This is where authoritarianism comes from on the Right.


And there it is...

Progressives ALWAYS project what they want and what they will do.

Always go after the enemy (in this case, anyone to the right of Stalin) and project everything unto them.

It is fun to watch this finally come out. Took several pages, but the truth finally comes.
Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
Member since Feb 2025
2033 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 4:43 pm to
quote:


I care about protecting my rights as a citizen. I don't want to be swept up in some over-broad search for illegals. I resent federal government overreach, therefore, I like a high standard for them to be picking people up off the street

Well congratulations genius. Now illegal immigrants have more rights than you. Because you absolutely can be arrested without a warrant if the police see you committing a crime or have probable cause to believe your committing a crime. But apparently that shite doesn't apply for illegal aliens. So you stupid fricking cut off your nose despite your face
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162878 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 4:43 pm to
This is ludicrous. ICE has the warrants. This Judge is throwing out a headline and should be removed from the bench immediately for advocating to break federal law.
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