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re: U.S. debt to asset ratio is better than 1:7
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
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does the government own all of these mineral assets?
Well gee, if its on PUBLIC land - what the frick do you think ?!?
This post was edited on 12/4/14 at 11:47 pm
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:48 pm to SpidermanTUba
This post was edited on 12/4/14 at 11:50 pm
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:51 pm to bhtigerfan
Thanks for sharing your cellphone wallpaper with us bhtigerfan. That's a nifty way to remind yourself.
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Posted on 12/5/14 at 12:49 am to SpidermanTUba
From the article you linked
I have stated it on this board on several different occasions - US coal represents the largest proven energy reserve on Earth.
Substantially larger than all of OPEC's oil combined.
In addition, shale oil reserves in the Green River Basin Formation (a decent sized chunk of the shaded area on the map in your link) are currently estimated to be 1.47 trillion barrels.
Compare this to the 1.32 trillion barrels of proven conventional oil reserves in the entire world.
We have all the domestic sources we need to produce electricity and liquid transportation fuel at affordable prices into the foreseeable future.
In order for this to yield real growth and prosperity, we have to bring these resources to market. Just having them sitting in the ground as if they were "money in the bank" doesn't cut it.
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It is well known that abundant, reliable and affordable energy supplies act as fertilizer for economic growth that in turn generates new revenue sources," they write. "It is time to better utilize government assets owned by the U.S. taxpayer, and in turn, unleash the U.S. economy’s potential.
I have stated it on this board on several different occasions - US coal represents the largest proven energy reserve on Earth.
Substantially larger than all of OPEC's oil combined.
In addition, shale oil reserves in the Green River Basin Formation (a decent sized chunk of the shaded area on the map in your link) are currently estimated to be 1.47 trillion barrels.
Compare this to the 1.32 trillion barrels of proven conventional oil reserves in the entire world.
We have all the domestic sources we need to produce electricity and liquid transportation fuel at affordable prices into the foreseeable future.
In order for this to yield real growth and prosperity, we have to bring these resources to market. Just having them sitting in the ground as if they were "money in the bank" doesn't cut it.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 4:21 am to SpidermanTUba
Are you counting coal and other fossil fuel commodities that your environmental policies would render practically worthless?

This post was edited on 12/5/14 at 5:57 am
Posted on 12/5/14 at 5:14 am to SpidermanTUba
I'm sweating and breathing hard from doing mental gymnastics just trying to make anything you have stated work and the numbers to make sense.
Please break down the equation on where you figure the US "Owns" 128T in mineral assets, is that factoring in the cost of production? Is the 128T the tax money expected from private companies pulling the carbon from the ground?
C minus on the thread, and that's with the Spidey Curve
Please break down the equation on where you figure the US "Owns" 128T in mineral assets, is that factoring in the cost of production? Is the 128T the tax money expected from private companies pulling the carbon from the ground?
C minus on the thread, and that's with the Spidey Curve
Posted on 12/5/14 at 6:52 am to reverendotis
Okay - I'm just going to say it - being anti-coal is anti-American, period.
We have more coal than the rest of the world, combined, excluding Russia.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 8:12 am to SpidermanTUba
quote:What good is that if the President will not allow for exploration and recovery of said minerals.
We have 128 T in mineral assets.
Tuba do you want to have public lands opened up for exploration?
Posted on 12/5/14 at 8:38 am to SpidermanTUba
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We have 128 T in mineral assets.
who?
Posted on 12/5/14 at 8:48 am to SpidermanTUba
quote:You should learn the concept of liquidity before making a fool of yourself.
We have 128 T in mineral assets.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 8:49 am to SpidermanTUba
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PUBLIC land
Stolen land....
Posted on 12/5/14 at 9:20 am to SpidermanTUba
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We have 128 T in mineral assets.
We do? That's the libhrul mindset all there in one tiny soundbite.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 9:24 am to Taxing Authority
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You should learn the concept of liquidity before making a fool of yourself.
So I should count my home as an asset worth $0.00 because it is illiquid,
right?
Posted on 12/5/14 at 9:27 am to SpidermanTUba
So your interested in treating the government like a private company? Great, please show me any private company that has operated at a loss for multiple decades that still exists?
Posted on 12/5/14 at 9:39 am to SpidermanTUba
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We have 128 T in mineral assets.
You have no concept of liquidity. Zero.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 9:40 am to Taxing Authority
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You should learn the concept of liquidity before making a fool of yourself.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 9:40 am to Radiojones
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So your interested in treating the government like a private company? Great, please show me any private company that has operated at a loss for multiple decades that still exists?
Please show me a private company that has the right to collect taxes from the entire nation by majority vote of its shareholders.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 9:41 am to lsu13lsu
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You have no concept of liquidity. Zero.
I don't recall mentioning the liquidity of the assets until another poster brought it up.
Glad to help you feel smart though. You gotta take what you can get I guess...
BTW - do you think if I need a loan I shouldn't bother to mention the house? Its not terribly liquid, so it doesn't count as an asset, right?
This post was edited on 12/5/14 at 9:42 am
Posted on 12/5/14 at 9:41 am to SpidermanTUba
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So I should count my home as an asset worth $0.00 because it is illiquid,
right?
Your house is worth what you can sell it for. Not what you value it at. Bring $128T worth of any mineral to the market and see what you can sell it for. Look what happened when all this oil started flooding the market.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 9:43 am to Radiojones
Well hell, tuba boy, let's just sell $36T of those mineral assets IMMEDIATELY and go from $18T in the hole to $18T in the black! BRILLIANT!!!
Tuba, this thread reminds of that scene in "Dumb and Dumber" where Jeff Daniels' character trades the van for a scooter. Jim Carrey's character says something like, "Just when I thought you couldn't get any dumber, you go and do something like this....AND TOTALLY REDEEM YOURSELF!"
What's really sad for you is, that was just a fictional movie, and they were just pretending to be that stupid.
You, on the other hand........
Tuba, this thread reminds of that scene in "Dumb and Dumber" where Jeff Daniels' character trades the van for a scooter. Jim Carrey's character says something like, "Just when I thought you couldn't get any dumber, you go and do something like this....AND TOTALLY REDEEM YOURSELF!"
What's really sad for you is, that was just a fictional movie, and they were just pretending to be that stupid.
You, on the other hand........
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