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re: U.S.-born man held for ICE under Florida’s new anti-immigration law
Posted on 4/19/25 at 6:51 pm to VOR
Posted on 4/19/25 at 6:51 pm to VOR
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More Gestapo tactics by ICE… overreaching with state government and
with an American citizen, no less. There is no justification for this un-American
nonsense. It’s shameful and betrays the principles upon which our country was founded and the literal mandates of the Constitution.
BS. This Nation since it's Founding has been a virtual 'Gated Community', with those who hope to become citizens required to profess allegiance to Constitutional Principles, learn English and be self-sufficient, and a lot more qualifiers. It's only since the Marxist gained prominence in the political arena that the above has been abandoned. And not for the National good of the citizenry, as deficits soar along with inflation, crime and a general cultural degeneracy.
I smell a rat. Something is up with this guy, and his Mom knows it, but like Karmelo Anthony's Mom, sweeps it under the table. Albeit more to be known soon. And if the guy is a working, responsible individual, then back to work. Like the rest of us who pay the National Tab.
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Posted on 4/19/25 at 8:11 pm to Indefatigable
They are not U. S. Citizens.
In the 1884 Elk v. Wilkins case, the 14th Amendment phrase "subject to its jurisdiction" was interpreted to exclude "children of ministers, consuls, and citizens of foreign states born within the United States."
In Elk, the American Indian claimant was considered not an American citizen because the law required him to be "not merely subject in some respect or degree to the jurisdiction of the United States, but completely subject to their political jurisdiction and owing them direct and immediate allegiance."
"The Court essentially stated that the status of the parents determines the citizenship of the child. To qualify children for birthright citizenship, based on the 14th Amendment, parents must owe "direct and immediate allegiance" to the U.S. and be "completely subject" to its jurisdiction with no foreign allegiance whatsoever. In other words, they must be United States citizens."
The citizenship question of American Indians was addressed and altered in the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924. The logical thinking of the Court in ELK remains unaltered in spite of the fact that future legislation legalized Indians as citizens.
In the 1884 Elk v. Wilkins case, the 14th Amendment phrase "subject to its jurisdiction" was interpreted to exclude "children of ministers, consuls, and citizens of foreign states born within the United States."
In Elk, the American Indian claimant was considered not an American citizen because the law required him to be "not merely subject in some respect or degree to the jurisdiction of the United States, but completely subject to their political jurisdiction and owing them direct and immediate allegiance."
"The Court essentially stated that the status of the parents determines the citizenship of the child. To qualify children for birthright citizenship, based on the 14th Amendment, parents must owe "direct and immediate allegiance" to the U.S. and be "completely subject" to its jurisdiction with no foreign allegiance whatsoever. In other words, they must be United States citizens."
The citizenship question of American Indians was addressed and altered in the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924. The logical thinking of the Court in ELK remains unaltered in spite of the fact that future legislation legalized Indians as citizens.
This post was edited on 4/19/25 at 8:17 pm
Posted on 4/19/25 at 8:55 pm to MintBerry Crunch
quote:
Trump needs to tell ICE to cut this shite out.
Really? This is what you care about? One beaner out of 20mm that were let in gets wrongfully arrested and its all trumps fault.. Jesus, you sir are a pussy.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 9:20 pm to SixthAndBarone
quote:
We don’t need to get to a point where we must show police our papers like Nazi Germany,
I'm not concerned with being mistaken for a Mexican.
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