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re: US authorities arrest Palestinian student protester at Columbia University

Posted on 3/9/25 at 8:19 pm to
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 8:19 pm to
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Would you recommend your child go to school at a Palestinian University and start protesting for pro-Israel causes?
No. First, the US Constitution would not provide them much protection in Palestinian territory. Second, getting involved in such a protest (OR the one at Columbia) is a good way to get hurt, either physically or professionally. Just not a percentage move.
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This student is getting handled with kid gloves.
Compared to the system in some third-world shithole? Sure. But I like to think that we do not live in a third-world shithole, and I expect the federal government to respect the US Constitution and applicable legislation.

Crazy, right?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 8:29 pm to
SOS, I have no doubt that you THINK you are properly and accurately portraying my positions on various issues, but you are just not very bright.

On every point that you raise, you are misstating and/or mischaracterizing what I have said/written. In general, it is just not worth the bandwidth to try and correct you on each point, because you lack the cerebral horsepower to understand the differences. Hell, I have TRIED to do so in the past on most of these issues, and you continue to cling to your delusions regarding my positions.

So I am NOT going to correct every stupid mischaracterization that you make, in every damned thread where you type it.

But, just to shut you the Hell up, I will address ONE for you.

Minimum security prisons. I SAID that governments have a duty to the taxpayer to handle incarceration in a cost-effective manner. Child molesters are (overwhelmingly) a VERY low risk for attempted escape, so it is cost-effective to imprison them in a lower security environment ... which eats about 1/5 (as I recall) the tax money of a maximum security imprisonment of the same inmate. I am very much a "limited government" advocate, and if government can accomplish the same task (imprisoning inmate "X" for "Y" number of years) for 1/5 the cost, that government DAMN WELL better do so.

YOU (with your limited intellect) have reduced that cost-benefit analysis to "Hank is soft on child molesters."
This post was edited on 3/9/25 at 9:41 pm
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 8:32 pm to
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Do you not agree that threatening a group due to their religion or blocking them from exercising their right to go to class us criminal


Is there evidence that Mahmoud Khalil did these things or only accusations? And if there is evidence or even accusations of these crimes, can you post a link? (any link will do) I'd like to read about it. I have yet to even see a list of accusations against this guy. Please don't take offense, but your accusations don't count.

And speaking of "criminal". To your knowledge, have any of these students or Columbia University on behalf of itself or these students filed criminal charges against Mahmoud Khalil?

These are not unfair queries.
This post was edited on 3/9/25 at 8:34 pm
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15805 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 8:34 pm to
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At this point, I am just tuning you out.



No, you aren't. You lack that ability.


Lmao TDTom was right.

My apologies to Pandy as this was meant for Pedohank
This post was edited on 3/9/25 at 8:38 pm
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
68342 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 8:34 pm to
Oh noez. Prosecute them!
This post was edited on 3/9/25 at 8:36 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476598 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 8:35 pm to
This is why we can't release the Epstein files
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15805 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 8:35 pm to
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Please don't take offense, but your accusations don't count.


You're absolutely correct. All we can go by is what we know which is he has been arrested by ICE. Let's see how it plays out.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 8:36 pm to
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quote:
At this point, I am just tuning you out.



No, you aren't. You lack that ability.


Lmao TDTom was right.


You're responding to wrong guy again man.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
68342 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 8:36 pm to
I got a warning the other day that I am kind of butthurt about.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15805 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 8:37 pm to
And again sorry
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476598 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 8:39 pm to
I wasn't even meaning any conspiracy.

So many NPCs on the right have truly consumed this terrible argument that criticizing pro-Israel people (including Jewish people who are pro-Israel) is somehow antisemitic that it effectively shields any negative discussion of Israel, and I saw this as a person who supports Israel over "Palestine", generally.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15805 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 8:39 pm to
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This is why we can't release the Epstein files


I'm pretty sure people on both sides of the aisle ate screwed if this ever comes to light
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476598 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 8:40 pm to
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I'm pretty sure people on both sides of the aisle ate screwed if this ever comes to light

Ah, but your silly NPC argument would apply here, and it would be "threatening a group due to their religion".

See how stupid NPC talking points from the echo chamber are?
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15805 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 8:42 pm to
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but your silly NPC argument would apply here, and it would be "threatening a group due to their religion".


How would people that abused children have anything to do with religion?
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15805 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 8:44 pm to
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many NPCs on the right have truly consumed this terrible argument that criticizing pro-Israel people (including Jewish people who are pro-Israel) is somehow antisemitic that it effectively shields any negative discussion of Israel, and I saw this as a person who supports Israel over "Palestine", generally.


You do understand that the Palestinians saying " from the river to the sea" implies the extermination of the Jewish people.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476598 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 8:46 pm to
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How would people that abused children have anything to do with religion?

You're spinning the spin and just making the argument worse.

Responding to anti-Israel protestors =/= " threatening a group due to their religion", and repeating it 1M times in the echo chamber doesn't change that.

The main reason why is that Israel is not blameless and they have their own laundry list of fricked up shite to criticize them over that makes the response justified.

From the same perspective, criticizing them for their role in the Epstein saga makes the response justified.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15805 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 8:47 pm to
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You're spinning the spin and just making the argument worse.


Wasn't trying to spin anything. You mentioned the release of the Epstein files and I just made the statement that people from both political parties would be screwed if they are released.
Posted by Asharad
Tiamat
Member since Dec 2010
6343 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 8:48 pm to
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On what charges?
abusing his VISA
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
68342 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 8:48 pm to
It's just words, why are you such a snowflake?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476598 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 8:48 pm to
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You do understand that the Palestinians saying " from the river to the sea" implies the extermination of the Jewish people.

It does not. *ETA: it theoretically can for the polar outliers, but you don't want to focus just there.

And, again, while I support Israel over the Palestinians, Israel is currently engaged in ethnic cleansing of Gaza after their apartheid state failed.
This post was edited on 3/9/25 at 8:50 pm
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