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re: US authorities arrest Palestinian student protester at Columbia University
Posted on 3/9/25 at 6:34 pm to AggieHank86
Posted on 3/9/25 at 6:34 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
This is a thread about the arrest of a Palestinian protester in NYC.
Guess I wouldn't want my past posted in any thread either if I was you. Notice you didn't ( can't) dispute anything I said about you.
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Posted on 3/9/25 at 6:34 pm to SOSFAN
Per AI-
The legality of supporting a terrorist group through protest in the United States is complex and heavily dependent on various factors, including the specific actions taken and the context surrounding them.
Generally, the First Amendment protects the right to free speech and assembly, which includes the right to protest. However, if the protest involves actively supporting or advocating for a designated terrorist organization, such as providing material support or inciting violence, it can lead to legal repercussions.
The U.S. government maintains a list of foreign terrorist organizations, and providing support to these entities can be considered a crime under federal law. Therefore, while individuals can express their opinions and protest peacefully, they must be cautious not to engage in activities that could be interpreted as supporting or furthering the aims of a terrorist group.
It's a nuanced topic, and individuals interested in navigating these issues should consider seeking legal advice or further information on the specifics of their situation. If you have any more questions or would like to discuss this topic further, feel free to ask!
The legality of supporting a terrorist group through protest in the United States is complex and heavily dependent on various factors, including the specific actions taken and the context surrounding them.
Generally, the First Amendment protects the right to free speech and assembly, which includes the right to protest. However, if the protest involves actively supporting or advocating for a designated terrorist organization, such as providing material support or inciting violence, it can lead to legal repercussions.
The U.S. government maintains a list of foreign terrorist organizations, and providing support to these entities can be considered a crime under federal law. Therefore, while individuals can express their opinions and protest peacefully, they must be cautious not to engage in activities that could be interpreted as supporting or furthering the aims of a terrorist group.
It's a nuanced topic, and individuals interested in navigating these issues should consider seeking legal advice or further information on the specifics of their situation. If you have any more questions or would like to discuss this topic further, feel free to ask!
Posted on 3/9/25 at 6:36 pm to prplngldtigr
Hasn't it been posted that he was arrested over a expired visa?
Posted on 3/9/25 at 6:38 pm to SOSFAN
From the article -
It was not immediately clear on what grounds the DHS agents detained Khalil, whose wife is American, and he remained in custody on Sunday, students said.
Also from the article:
The government said the cuts and the student deportation efforts are because of antisemitic harassment at and near Columbia's Manhattan campus.
Harassment IS illegal during a protest.
It was not immediately clear on what grounds the DHS agents detained Khalil, whose wife is American, and he remained in custody on Sunday, students said.
Also from the article:
The government said the cuts and the student deportation efforts are because of antisemitic harassment at and near Columbia's Manhattan campus.
Harassment IS illegal during a protest.
This post was edited on 3/9/25 at 6:43 pm
Posted on 3/9/25 at 6:39 pm to SOSFAN
quote:SOS, my dainty little friend, almost everything you post about me or my "past" is not just "wrong" but blatantly (and probably intentionally) so.
Guess I wouldn't want my past posted in any thread either if I was you. Notice you didn't ( can't) dispute anything I said about you.
It just is not worth the effort to quibble with you about the details, every time you open your cock holster.
Posted on 3/9/25 at 6:39 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
Maybe we can stick to the facts, so that the adults can examine those issues. What do you say?
Adults don't back drag queens being around children or child molesters being put in minium security prisons. No one forgot who you are nor will they let you forget it.
Posted on 3/9/25 at 6:40 pm to prplngldtigr
quote:
was not immediately clear on what grounds the DHS agents detained Khalil, whose wife is American, and he remained in custody on Sunday, students said.
Interesting. I look forward to seeing what the reason was.
Posted on 3/9/25 at 6:42 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
just is not worth the effort to quibble with you about the details, every time you open your cock holster.
It's not worth it because you can't defend yourself. Everything I said about you is true and everyone knows it.
No one wants to hear your thoughts on Palestinian protests when we know what you have backed in the past.
Posted on 3/9/25 at 6:43 pm to Bunk Moreland
quote:If it's okay to run around campuses screaming 'death to America' - and it fricking is - why is it not okay to do the same with Israel?
Good to see the free speech mavens in full hypocrite mode.
Posted on 3/9/25 at 6:43 pm to SOSFAN
quote:No one would have known that, from your two pages of whining about the last person who asked that question.
was not immediately clear on what grounds the DHS agents detained Khalil, whose wife is American, and he remained in custody on Sunday, students said.quote:
Interesting. I look forward to seeing what the reason was.
This post was edited on 3/10/25 at 9:13 am
Posted on 3/9/25 at 6:44 pm to SOSFAN
quote:Again, give some thought to sitting down, shutting up and letting the adults talk.
SOSFAN
You might learn something.
My understanding is that the feds cannot just unilaterally cancel a student visa without some sort of violation of the terms of that visa by the student. I think that a LOT of people on this thread are interested to know exactly what basis the Trump Administration is claiming for revocation of this visa.
Maybe it will be a valid reason, and maybe it will be bullshite. But we cannot evaluate it, until the basis is disclosed.
This post was edited on 3/9/25 at 6:48 pm
Posted on 3/9/25 at 6:45 pm to blueboy
The big picture: Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents told Khalil that his student visa had been revoked before his arrest.
quote:
Immigration agents haul in Mahmoud Khalil, who has an American wife, tell his attorney they are revoking his green card; last year he was among leaders of campus demonstrations
quote:
Greer told the AP that an agent informed her in a phone call that they were executing an order from the State Department to revoke Khalil's student visa. Upon being informed he was a permanent resident with a green card, the agent said they were pulling his green card too.
Greer said in a statement to Axios that Khalil's legal team was informed Sunday morning he had been transferred to an ICE facility in Elizabeth, New Jersey. But when his pregnant wife, a U.S. citizen who was also threatened with arrest by ICE, went to visit him, she was told he was not there.
This post was edited on 3/9/25 at 6:49 pm
Posted on 3/9/25 at 6:47 pm to blueboy
quote:
Unless this guy committed an actual crime, I don't see why they're doing here. Are there details I'm not seeing?
He ran illegal protests. He took part in illegal protests.
He and his people terrorized Jewish students.
They broke into buildings and took over portions of campus illegally.
He broke multiple laws.
Posted on 3/9/25 at 6:47 pm to prplngldtigr
quote:Those things are already crimes. Speech doesn't have shite to do with providing material assistance to terrorists.
However, if the protest involves actively supporting or advocating for a designated terrorist organization, such as providing material support or inciting violence
Look, if they did anything violent or publicly called for violence, I agree they should GTFO, but there is no mention of that.
ETA:
quote:Then it's not a freedom of speech issue. He should GTFO.
He and his people terrorized Jewish students.
They broke into buildings and took over portions of campus illegally.
He broke multiple laws.
This post was edited on 3/9/25 at 6:51 pm
Posted on 3/9/25 at 6:48 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
On what charges?
On being an ungrateful malcontent and causing trouble
We will think up a charge and deport him. He can litigate his case while he is in Israeli custody.
This post was edited on 3/9/25 at 6:50 pm
Posted on 3/9/25 at 6:49 pm to thetempleowl
Illegal, illegal, illegal. Don't cry when Obama and Biden are making those determinations regarding protests you support or even the conduct of your favorite orange president.
Posted on 3/9/25 at 6:49 pm to 14&Counting
quote:
We will think up charge and deport him.
Exactly.
Posted on 3/9/25 at 6:50 pm to blueboy
The article says harassment is the reason.
Posted on 3/9/25 at 6:50 pm to blueboy
quote:Well, TempleOwl assures us that everything about the protests was illegal and that this particular student is somehow vicariously liable for every illegal act committed by anyone involved in the protests in any way.
Look, if they did anything violent or publicly called for violence, I agree they should GTFO, but there is no mention of that.
So there.
Posted on 3/9/25 at 6:51 pm to Jjdoc
quote:
Encampment.
If you take over a building.. illegal.
If he is on a visa, you can not create turmoil and break laws. You go bye bye
Did Columbia file charges? Do they have to for it to be a crime? He was arrested in his student housing and remains a student there. Columbia doesn't seem too bothered by all this. Do they get a say in it?
This post was edited on 3/9/25 at 6:52 pm
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